Road Map

I have to admit that I have not been very inspired in the past two or three months – often I really had to force out a count as the direction was pretty much up and then up and then even higher up. It gets old you know. After about three major zigzags toward the stratosphere many of us bears were ready to gulp down a bottle of Clorox and check ourselves into the insane asylum (hey, the food is actually pretty good).

In the past few days I have however regained some of the old mojo, so to say – a few people have left the bulding and moved on to do their own thing, and that’s okay. As they say – it’s lonely at the top – and I’ve always been pretty bad at pleasing people – especially when it comes to relative strangers. But these are exciting times nonetheless – in a way I almost feel like back in October of 2008 – I was equally unpopular then and had just gotten booted off of a very popular trading blog (no, not the Slope) for posting my now notorious ‘Dow Into The Abyss’ charts. Boy, did I piss a lot of people off – and they couldn’t wait to get rid of me, which then became the genesis of Evil Speculator. I’m sure many of them expected me to walk into the sunset and to never be heard of again, but I was happy to let them down on that end. It was interesting to see many of the same people finally find their way to this blog, roughly around the time the SPX was dropping through 700 – LOL :-)

As a natural contrarian (yes, I used to be a pain in the butt before I became a trader) I do enjoy being unpopular. The more folks are ridiculing my work, question my skills, my trading background, or my analytical skills, the more emboldened I become and the more secure I feel about my trading and my own personal direction. After all – nobody ever got rich trading the markets doing what everyone else is doing. You want to bank some coin? You better not be afraid of pointing at a room full of people and telling them they are all wrong. That takes some serious cohones – alternatively it takes an over bloated ego and a natural desire to stick it to the next guy – I got both of that in ample quantities.

Whatever happens next will become a major chapter in the annals of history (no, has nothing to do with devious sexual activities – look it up). We can sit here and quibble about the perfect entries – and I enjoy the daily musings as much as the next guy. But I want to re-emphasize what’s really important here and that’s quite simply that you grab yourself a piece of the pie and that soon. It won’t be straight down from here, no – expect many head fakes, interventions, snap backs based on xxxx whch will be reversed a few days later, you know – the stuff we’ve become used to in the past year.

But you know what? You’re still here! You didn’t throw in the towel, you kept on fighting, made a few – lost a few, but you definitely learned a lot. And if you learned one single thing then it’s that they will try to throw you off the pony, and that more than once. But you know better and you know the script – and if you lose faith then I’ll be here to remind you. Because we are stainless steel rats and we will be victorious!

Okay, if you’re not inspired yet, I have to roll out the big artillery:

And no, contrary to all rumors, I’m not seven feet tall. But I’m 9 inches long, ladies ;-) Alright, enough of the pep talk – here’s the road map as I see it for the next week or so.

Yes, Soylent Blue is not out of the picture yet. We are getting close to where we can drop its probability below the 50% mark, but not just yet. However, the recent tape has encouraged me to permit myself some EWT inspired mental masturbations as to how things might play out in the next few days. Tomorrow’s announcement of third quarter U.S. GDP figures and the initial jobless claims might serve as a trigger for a quick push higher, thereby relieving the currently oversold conditions. This is not guaranteed to happen however – we might see a fast drop all the way to 1022 – these things tend to happen in deeply oversold markets.

So, yes – dropping my puts today was a bit of a risk, but there’s also Minute (2) waiting ahead, and it will be a final opportunity to back up the truck with long term puts. Perhaps this will get Mr. VIX back down towards the 25 mark, which should be the last time in at least a year we’ll see such low readings. Which also means that option traders will have a final chance to participate as we will approach and eventually exceed the type of volatility that was prevalent late 2008 and into early 2009. The one word to properly depict the options market around that time was ‘broken’ – and it will take a long time to come back at levels that will make derivatives again an ‘option’ for traders – pun intended.

So once again we are staring down at the abyss and it’s staring right back at us – are you afraid? You better be. But if you are smart and if you are prepared to sit through some nasty swings you might just walk away smiling when it’s all said and done. I’d love to be there with you – and going forward I’m going to completely fade blog politics and all the drama – my focus is going to be razor sharp. We had eight months to screw around, to complain, and to hatch our respective evil plans – now it’s time to play.

Cheers,

Mole

This entry was posted on Wednesday, October 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pm and is filed under Elliott Wave Theory, Market Outlook. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  • remember that 5's get over excited, we had the ED type, now if there is a vertical push ....
  • ladies and bears, be very carefull, possible GS wave in progress presenting a iii of 3.

    Target beyond 1070
  • fuw
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  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Looks like Sol made 1,000,000 from yesterday on es. Crazy. He is now short 1700 lots.lol
  • centerline
    Another one I am watching is BAC. Was short from 18 to 15.20-ish. Jumped ship when it was clear that BAC has solid support at 15. When she breaks 15, there might be a good short opportunity for a couple of days. I wouldn't necessary pull the trigger yet though.
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    i hope this is the end of {iv}. I dont want this to go into wave {i}. If it does new highs..
  • yep. we are all watching that I think. good news is that my 10min tick oscillator has just turned south - hoping it holds in that direction... trin in buy territory but coming slowly back also.
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    i think wave {iv} will chop around into Friday.
  • centerline
    Also, Mole, nice call on ATPG squeeze as well. I tried to get in on that one at the last minute yesterday and did not get filled. That of course sealed the deal that it was going to do well today! So far so good. Nov options up nicely. More money to short the hell out of P3!
  • centerline
    Nice bounce on AA today. Nov 13 calls up very nicely. Congrats to those who pointed this one out.
  • NorbertTO
    Thanks, on the AA, took $$ off at .53. can never have enough of those (or be big enough)
  • skynard
    Can someone explain what happened at Unisys (UIS). This stock was trading at like 3 bucks. This one looks ripe for the picking.
  • z12run
    1 for 10 reverse split.
  • People thought it was undervalued. It looks pretty sweet here. Nice BB squeeze.

    Look at DTG though... stock bottomed around $0.58 at topped just shy of 30. Anything like this is a sure short in my book.

    Skål!
  • Guest
    P3 is 6 to 12 months away. Last few days have been fun but time to move on.
  • fuw
    What makes you so certain? To say that we are at a point of indecision is one thing (at important support, after a week of declines etc), to be sure of 6 month of upside is another.
  • Guest
    It's going to virtually impossible for P3 to start unless we are at a turning point in GDP. The fact is, whether we like it or not, there is going to be an inventory rebuild and there could be a 5% GDP print in Q$ and this may extend into Q1. Only when this short-term cyclical impact is over will the market fall. But it could be from a much higher level - you need revenue forecasts to move up and extrapolate the growth. I know technicals are important but you have to put it in a wider context.
  • DesertEagle
    Funny how the market can just find support under the 50 day moving average. Gubmint money would do the trick.
  • fuw
    TRIN trending up. Just saying. It has often fooled us during this rally though.
  • Nightwind
    Mole or Berk. My only bearish concern is the /DX. Would you consider its move over the last days to be impulsive or corrective? It looks like a lot of overlapping waves to me. Thx
  • To me it looks pretty impulsive. Should be due for a little decline, but it has 5 nice waves up from the bottom.

    Skål!
  • Nightwind
    Gann, I appreciate your coments. Sometimes this old dog could always learn new tricks.
  • EURUSD hourly MACD crossed 0, we might have a trend change here.
  • fuw
    When looking back on recent history it seems to have very low explanatory power. Hourly stochs are overbought. Pick your poison.

    Also, euro/usd still under recent resistance.
  • Bart7
    dollar taking a hit... on a strong GDP report? Fundamentally doesn't make sense but we had hit that downtrend line
  • Like i said earlier, good GDP means recovery and money on risky asssets....dollar is not one of them.
  • raised_by_wolves
    SPX is six or seven points away from Mole's channel line where orange turns blue.
  • tradejane
    And will probably stay blue until 1080 after which it turns orange again. :)
  • raised_by_wolves
    Mole has light blue from 1060 to 1080. A move above 1080 would confirm dark blue, the ride all the way up to 1120.
  • Guest
    Look people. Get with the program. A lot of technical indicators were at the exact same levels y'day as they were at the July low. This could be another huge bear trap. I am bearish but I am not stupid. Being short here is insanity.
  • true.
  • charles_smith
    I am a major Bear and have the tremendous losses since late July to prove it :-) That said, I find it noteworthy that all the chatter of a topping move to 1120 or DJI 10,300 has disappeared. Sentiment-wise the MSM and market are suddenly cautious which worries me. A new high is practically the lowest-probability scenario at the moment given sentiment and thus I am keenly alert to the possibility that Mole's Big Blue scenario will indeed play out. All the reasons to run to 1120 and 10,300 are still present IMO. Just a thought.
  • (iii) of 3 kicking off...1064 is the target
  • Cypherd
    picked up some GMCR to play a possible rally today. Plan on being out by EOD.
  • charles_smith
    Keying off one of Mole's comments re: the orderly nature of yesterday's descent--a little weakness in the tape would set a very nice trap for a short-covering rally. At a minimum SPX will recover the 20-day MA--that would be standard practice.
  • standard_and_poor
    Increasing longs to 75% by adding EDC.
  • fuw
    Was that it? Pathetic GDP bounce if so.
  • Bart7
    anyone heard any updates from McHugh?
  • gannsecret
    yes,
    he said the market could go up or
    on the other hand it could go down
  • Bart7
    but not sideways?
  • skynard
    Disagree:)
  • gannsecret
    If you follow him there is always a scenario both ways
    I'd like to get paid to tell people the market will go up or down
  • skynard
    Yes, I know what you mean. Wouldn't that be nice though.
  • cramar
    So what does Gann say for the next week or so?
  • gannsecret
    Well Gann is dead, but my work says down to
    1028 today 1057 by monday/tuesday down to
    the 19th
  • arak0
    SPX or ES for 1057?
  • gannsecret
    spx
  • Bart7
    1028 today? That seems like a long shot, unless Geithner says something stupid
    I think 1057 today is doable
  • gannsecret
    market needs to stop here in order for that to be a
    possibility.
  • Bart7
    All Elliott oriented people have those freakin alternate counts. McHugh's pretty good about clarifying the preferred count and usually has only 1 alternate, some folks have multiple alternates and it gets way too watered down to be of any value
  • gannsecret
    then why do you come here ?
  • Bart7
    it's not all Elliott here... why do you come here?
  • gannsecret
    I ask myself that about every other day. I guess I have nothing
    else to do. Mybe your right, Goodbye
  • T_dub
    GS,
    Good morning from the west coast, buddy ! As you know, I've got very similar targets to you, with minor differences though: 1020 by tomorrow AM.. then up to 1062 by Tuesday/Wednesday... then "abyss" as Mole calls it. Basically, Mole's soylent orange on your time frames.

    By the way, I hope you (and Bart7 and any other contributor here) don't get discouraged by the blog squabbles. It is a fantastic community and it sucks to lose even one contributor - as Anna's departure shows. Anyway, the best laid out plans are often thrown off by emotions... so its just gonna be charts and numbers for me. Keep 'em coming !
  • skynard
    Hey, come back, don't go! Always enjoy your posts! Bart, what the......
  • Bart7
    I don't want to see him go, nice having the Gann perspective etc.
  • Bart7
    hang in there, you're a valued contributor here.....
  • EURUSD hourly MACD almost crossing 0 up, last time it crossed down we had a 200 pip move in a few hours.
  • Adding to LVS, FWLT, NIHD.

    Looking to enter MA, CME, FLR, SHLD.

    Skål!
  • jbrennan
    short or long?
  • All those short.

    Skål!
  • Tipical move yesterday from GS, posting a review of GDP to 2.9%

    GDP reviewed to worse, ppl add shorts, GDP better than expected, short squeeze......its GS baby!
  • Me_XMan
    Let's see what the bulls can do today.
  • gannsecret
    Gann S&P resistance today 1053-4
  • gmak
    I'm not going to post much today unless Disqus smartens up. I don't need any more grief from that quarter. Just want to say that EUR has been rejected by the pivot at 1.4801. Tech problems make this a late post but it would have been a low risk entry around that pivot for a short with stops up above.
  • I would wait to 1.4840 before thinking in taking shorts on the EUR.
  • gmak
    I think that it depends on your timeframe. If you are scalping intra-day then the pivots are the way to go. Longer than that, you may be right.- but I don't have any TA or trend lines at 1.4840.  I do have one trend line going back to the 21 OCT 2009 that crosses just above on a 30 min chart at that pivot at 1.4801. I have some TD resistance at 1.4850 - but it is not huge resistance.




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  • fuw
    The wierd thing is that posts seem to flicker back and forth. I saw your pre-market post just a while ago, but now after reloading its gone.
  • Yikes, my shorts aren't going to like today but my longs will, I don't think the gap will get filled today...
  • Looking for bounces in FWLT, X, MDR, LVS to reload on puts. DTG and NIHD look like continued downside is in the cards.

    Looking for CF to give a nice rally for a short entry. MA is looking like a nice short on a break-down. FSLR should be a good short on a bounce and after IV settles down.

    Skål!
  • AS2009
    Hey Berk .... glad i closed half my position on X - today was getting out on just breakeven .... any idea on where these may bounce to ... I see a possibility of neckline retest on X ... @ 39.25
  • I'd be looking for 38.75 with a potential gap fill at 40.50.

    Skål!
  • Still want to buy puts on AMZN...still not doing it.
  • Highly shorted at highs. I wouldn't do it yet mate.

    Skål!
  • I am waiting for a beautiful Doji on the daily and then a confirmation candle before I even think of it.

    Ok scratch that part about thinking about cuz I am...
  • newbear
    I couldn't resist and bought puts on AMZM yesterday when it tried to rally.
  • shortcover
    ...from the GDP report..."The third-quarter increase largely reflected motor vehicle purchases under the Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act of 2009 (popularly called, “Cash for Clunkers” Program)." Interesting...
  • gmak
    This is the third time I'm posting this. Disqus is really being a pain today:

    Pre-Market warm up
    SPX has broken and closed below ULTRAVIOLET, which is the long term lower trend that began in March at 666ish. It has also broken below a TD “TDST Down” support level which is where the buyers are supposed to come in.
    However, If SPX opens up today, the TD methodology says that the break is not valid and will not continue longer term. This would suggest an underthrow on the trend line and the possibility that SPX will move back above it. It does not mean that today cannot be red, just that the break is not a “qualified” one and that a reversal is possible.
    My 5 min SPX chart shows that we are at a reversal point for a 5th TD Wave (down) – these are “local” waves which mean that there are no counts within counts. This suggests that there is a greater probability of moving up than down – at least for the next wave which is supposed to be A of ABC – and probably form a bearish, upward sloping wedge.
    Yesterday, rates came off the auction rate – just like a good manipulated QE market should – and benefited those who participated. Today is the 7 year auction, and a POMO day. It is the last of the QE, unless Congress approves more, and this will remove the activity that helped keep a lid on yields for US Treasuries.
    Even so, IMHO, it is the much larger TAF and MBS purchases that have an impact on EQUITIES. Yesterday there was a purchase of agency coupon – a euphemism for loans against MBS or toxic waste by the FED.
    http://www.gmtfo.com/reporeader/OMOps.aspx
    The Slosh report shows the following schedule for TAF maturity = liquidity being taken out of the financial system. If the FED lets it happen, then they are looking for an equity correction to help them get more QE money, IMO. However, they can use the agency coupon (MBS) purchases to replace it. Here are the main dates:
    Nov 5, 2009: 43 bb
    Nov 19, 2009: 40 bb
    Dec 3, 2009: 32 bb
    Dec 17, 2009: 25 bb
    At this point, there will be no more TAF. That means that the FED needs to buy about $140 bb in MBS between now an then to keep the same level of liquidity. There is about 400 bb or so remaining in the program that ends in March 2010.

    Summary: The market will still be driven by liquidity levels and not fundamentals. It will go up or down based on the FED’s agenda and the impression they want to give to congress, IMO.

    SPX
    As mentioned, SPX is below a decisive trend line and support levels. However, this move has not been qualified and could just be an underthrow. It depends on how today unfolds.

    Equity
    Asia was red by over 2% - IMO this was a carry over from the US market; Europe is mainly red. DAX and FTSE are both slightly red. For the DAX, Consumer goods, services, and Industrials are green – the opposite of yesterday when it was telecom and utilities. The news was negative on the consumer front with confidence and unemployment worse than expectations. DAX has been moving sideways after recovering from a drop at the open.

    FX
    USD /DXY is a bit weaker today; CAD, EUR, and GBP are stronger but JPY is flat. The ECB has signaled that it may start to withdraw its emergency stimulus measures next year by scaling back its “very long term” loans to banks. This is in direct contract to yesterday’s Zero Hedge article that opined that Europe has to play the US game of pumping liquidity.
    EUR pivots:
    R2: 1.4895 – a few days ago, this was a bear wet-dream target, and now it’s a bull’s forlorn hope
    R1: 1.4801 – Nowhere near this overnight
    Neutral: 1.4746 – this just acted as a roof on a rally attempt that began with the European open, but faded around 6AM.
    S1: 1.4651 – below some TD resistance levels and I don’t think we’ll get here today unless something nasty happens.
    S2: 1.4596 – The harbinger of the apocalypse for SPX, maybe.

    Data
    8:30 EDT =
    GDP; Actual was 3.5% vs 3.2% expected and -0.7% previous. All this in spite of GS last minute revision. What was all that about? ES, of course, has jumped up – but the USD is weakening. One would think that if there were strong economic growth, that the USD would strengthen in anticipation of rate increases. I think that we are seeing the effects of the MBS purchases yesterday – and that the GDP noise was just that – noise.
    Personal consumption: 3.4% vs 3.1% expected and -0.9% prior – This doesn’t smell right.
    Initial jobless claims = 530K vs 525K expected and 531K previous.

    Let the next wave up begin!
  • CorporalCarrot
    Considering its the end of the recession and so forth, this is a pretty pathetic bounce. We're currently looking at 80 dow points and less than 10 S&P. I think we go below yesterday's lows at some stage, as this bounce gets sold pretty hard.
  • A few highly shorted stocks towards their highs worth watching IMO. NFLX, MYL, LULU.

    Skål!
  • jbrennan
    watching for a short squeeze or to add as shorts?
  • When they are towards or at highs, I would look long for the short squeeze.

    Skål!
  • jbrennan
    Great post Mole. Here are some potential short candidates that I think will make us lots of $ in the coming months.
    BUCY, JOYG, GMCR, NFLX, QCOM, POT, COF, AXP, JPM
  • Big fan of POT and BUCY. JOYG and QCOM move too slow for me. Financials make me nauseous. And I think GMCR might have one last push. Looking long on NFLX here.

    Skål!
  • According to the Disciplined Investor NFLX is a good takeover target and he has been spot on lately.
  • Just more fuel to the fire. Love it.

    Skål!
  • dollar
    Motor vehicle output added 1.66 percentage points to the third-quarter change in real GDP after
    adding 0.19 percentage point to the second-quarter change.
  • ckeltner
    Mole - I just want to let you know I hate you, you really suck and I am pissed off. Your work is horrible, you have no skills and should quit trading, if thats what you call it. As a matter of fact, you should just leave the blog altogether and go join a bull blog and get it over with or I will continue to fade you all the way to 5000 spx baby!

    Hope that helps!
  • nyxjf
    huh?
  • Guest
    Not necessary. Trading is a risk-reward game. Nothing wrong with Mole's analysis but you still need trading skills to make money from it.

    FWIW I think we are going to 1080. Sorry lads, I am bearish but it's going up. Prob through 1100 now.
  • jaxon
    agreed. but i do not think we will go through 1100 again. think it will be a VERY long time before we see it again. by the way, WHEN the dollar bounces and the shorts get squeezed hard we are going to see some real fireworks. crash baby. we cannot stay at 0 interest rates forever and expect a recovery. this GDP number may get the Fed moving.
  • skynard
    Agree, the tape will retest res at 1080 to form a right shoulder and at that point we will find out where we go. IMO
  • gmak
    tsk tsk. Another troll. Run out of bridges and billy goats?
  • insite
    i don't think he's trolling; i think he's playing to the part of mole's post where he said that ridicule, questioning his skill, etc. actually helps his game & makes him focus better.

    well if that's the case, then MOLE: they're all gonna laugh at you!

    happy trading.
  • You guys ever heard of the concept of sarcasm?
  • ckeltner
    My humor is so misunderstood. Oh well, we great ones stand alone haha
  • Good morning master!
  • gmak
    There is no context. How is one to know what is being referenced? This is why there are so many unnecessary arguments in chat rooms and forums. Hence the need for a <sarcasm> emoticon.

    Sorry ckeltner. I take back what I said.</sarcasm>
  • ckeltner
    I almost had to unsubscribe to your comments!

    Its all good, I was expecting some to take it wrong. Like mole said, don't you people read the main post :)
  • gmak
    This is a case in point. Without context, it is very difficult to tell if you are joking or not.




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  • gmak
    * 10:15 Fed Treasury coupon purchase (Dec 31, 2013 to Apr 30, 2016)
    * 11:00 Treasury announces 3- and 6-month bills
    * 13:00 Treasury auctions $31 bln 7-year notes

    The 10:15 action is probably the last of the POMO.
  • tradejane
    Your other comment is still there, I was able to read it by clicking on your profile. It's just Disqus playing games again.
  • gmak
    But I can't see any of my pre-market posts. Oh well. Time to log out of disqus before it eats another computer.
  • Finaly! Let the squeeze this one last time so i can reload shorts again.



  • If EUR break 1.4770, next stop should be arround 1.4840. We`re popping off the upper line of the channel.
  • shortcover
    well...we were on the lower end of that channel wedge, oversold, plus testing the 50 day on the S&P...if we do bounce big I'll add to existing x2, x3 short efts...
  • gmak
    Remember that the initial reaction is often a head fake, and IMHO, GS and the others were just setting up the market for equity diistribution. Look for churning today to confirm or deny this.
  • Let them distribute above 1075!
  • CorporalCarrot
    I still think this bounce will fade badly.
  • GDP 3.5% better than expected
  • tradejane
    The reaction in the DAX blew my German streamer away. Luckily TD is much tougher.

    What about the unemployment claims?
  • Bear Market Rally, Good news is bad news..... Dollar Shooting up....
  • In my chart EUR is the one shooting up...
  • fuw
    IMO so far its nothing, and just a news spike. Euro/usd is still below short term resistance. When we're above 1.485 things get more interesting.
  • Yeah that too... *oops*
  • gmak
    What?!! Dollar is falling. EUR is on a tear and has broken resistance at the neutral pivot. Party on, Garth!
  • since it's quiet and all waiting for GDP..here's 2 hr DAX chart as it's live, we are right at the trendline support...maybe a little more on downside..but probability for bounce? Some negatives are also present so we COULD bust through and not look back...but in that case a lot of downside to come..
    http://www.screencast.com/t/S4A7qddO
  • tradejane
    DAX support held and the banks are staging a strong reversal. Commerzbank is up 4% for the day, DB is up nearly 2%. That doesn't bode well for those betting on a GDP waterfall.

    PS. But for those of us who believe the market trend has changed this should prove an excellent opportunity to reload. :)
  • gsavli
    it might stage a nasty short squeeze, if it gets higher. especially with brilliant firms like BAC or FITB, which were shorted quite a bit, I guess.
  • CorporalCarrot
    With everyone "expecting" a GDP bounce, I think it will be short lived at best and an opportunity to reload shorts. Everyone knows that with the amount of money printing and "stimulous" that a positive number is coming out. But its baked in already.
  • jaxon
    GDP bounce coming up. All indicators point to it as well as the fact that market is oversold and we have 4 days down in a row. As you say Mole, having gotten the snot kicked out of us for some time leads one to be a bit skeptical. I hope it's only a bounce. A case could be made that it could turn into a more complex PW2. There is a strong diagonal support line beneath the market running back to July. Every time we see indicators in this position we have gotten a serious rally. RSI beneath 50, MOM, Stochastics beneath 20, etc. Things just seem to have been too easy right before GDP announcement. Just seems like someone (-; (can't imagine who) is planning on making a whole bunch of money.
  • jesterx
    Ok clan, so here is what we got today. I SMELL A RAT!

    Could this be a GDP reversal???? we have several days of down, right to smack bang to our rising support line, just 12 hours shy of the GDP announcement. hmmm. smells fishy!!!

    I have seen this play out before!!! Market down [GDP news OUT] market back up.

    Look for a similar play.

    Remember also it is a historical day as you read this as we are exactly 80 years to the day from the massive 1929 stockmarket crash. A huge day that changed the US economy and the lives of many.

    the situation at present is Everything is revolving around teh USD$ dollar at the moment as everyone is watching this closely, as should you.

    Remember and I look at the ES chart we are extremely oversold! that doesnt
    mean we wont go lower, but I would expect at least some sort of a pop from where we are at the moment.

    Remember we are going into the end of the month and statistically
    the end of october / leading into November is not too bad and that gives me
    more reason to see a bit of a pop here especially as we go into the start of November. SO we are bears and we need to play cautiously here and sell any big rally we get.

    If the bears take hold we could go much lower, but because we are so oversold and waiting for the GDP news and other news due today which could put a positive spin on things we could again see the 1080 - 90's
    region if they want to take us back there.

    Here are some charts to help...

    1) Dow Jones Trannies (Leader) - http://s657.photobucket.com/albums/uu293/bigelkhorn/ESOT.jpg

    2) ES (S&P 500) - http://s657.photobucket.com/albums/uu293/bigelkhorn/ESO.jpg
  • defenderyou
    Nice post. Here is my dilemna - we want strong GDP for equity market rally or opposite for bear sell-off; but strong GDP will also strengthen the USD. Strong USD means equity markets go down contradicting the correlation effect between the dollar and equities. In fact is USD drives equity performance does this mean we will break the bond between the two? Actually, I have a simple scenario - we will have weak GDP which means an even weaker dollar but equity markets won't respond go down much right now and will create a sideways consolidaiton pattern starting now and thru November. Alternatively if weak GDP and equity markets sell-off will the dollar rally anyway breaking the correlation between the two. So, no matter how you look at it the implicaition is for a breakdown between the USD and stock performance.
  • yes maybe..BUT so far good figs have seen equity mkts rise and dollar go weaker..correlation of usd and equities will end one day...over a year ago..very little correlation..if my memory is correct...(old age!:)
  • jesterx
    As you say "I have a simple scenario"?

    So you are pre-emting the news and change of these refraction trades.

    Easy zippy! There are plenty of time...lets start with the action today.

    I think its best to watch and wait.
  • defenderyou
    I just dont see how we can retrace back to 1080-1100 on back of strong GDP with a weaker dollar is waht I am saying. Part of reason dollar has been going down in addition to low US rates in uS is the US recession and our need to export our way out of it. So if we do bounce back up on back of strong report today I think the correlation between USD and equities will probably come to an end or at least move closer to zero
  • Strong GDP signals recovery, recovery means people move to risky assets...the oposite of what happened last days...EUR probably will rise.

  • jaxon
    agreed. sorry i posted before i read you.
  • jesterx
    tis ok.
  • fuw
    I agree that things are shaky, and its easy to be a paranoid bear. However, in my eyes the GDP forecast is quite optimistic (+3.2% after 4q of declines), which should decrease the chance of a positive surprise (quite the opposite). But right now we can do nothing but wait.
  • Watch out GOLD, i think its about to skyrocket....
  • PRSGuitars
    I like the sentimentals as much as technicals (and way more than fundamentals). You know, in terms of Mole's posts -- very astute observations, Mr. Cool.

    The dollar index -- which I have, uh, hesitantly claimed has bottomed (ahem, eh, sort of, last week) appears to have fooled me a bit.

    We have broken ONE major channel, but revised to only include more recent price action, we're RIGHT AT THE SMALL CHANNEL TOP TRENDLINE. Meaning. That goddamn /dx could still reverse course rather quickly. I will remain skeptical until Prechter replaces Gideon in every hotel drawer (ie, I will forever be skeptical of any true bear occurrence until it has already happened).

    http://screencast.com/t/chbUzgirgagj

    I don't have much else to add at the moment -- still holding 'core' put position but rapidly trimmed my short delta (esp today) such that if we drop, so be it (but if we bounce, I survive).

    Still in AMZN Jan 110 put naked, selling a Jan 105 against it whenever we drop a few pts and buying it back whenever we pop a few pts. Nothing wrong with collecting dough while you wait for a gap fill (and the longer you can wait, if you're a crafty countertrender like I) like this puppy... selling a Jan 105 for like, 5 or 6 bucks (@ AMZN = 110 or so) and waiting it out would be the best, since I only paid 6.00 for the 110 and think if the next wave down begins, the Qs will get woodshedded rather quickly.

    I realize now I should've set a trailing stop (mentally, even) with my short delta so that i wasn't scaling out during a trending run, but rather, waiting to heavily bank profits (if we didn't turn around @ 1100 or 1090, where then? it was the time to be aggressive) once we dropped significantly (I would say this is a good first part of 'significant drop', so... being cautious).

    The VIX may not see 20-22 again if this is 'really' it (I dont know if it is, but I figure by the time we figure out if it is or not, it'll be WAY too late) and the options market may not be so kind with offering the same R/R that was there a week ago. I will now hold my core shorts no matter what (as the 40% position relative to what I held a week ago now does only a measly 8% of my account damage if I let it ride, UNhedged, up to 1100 again... yes, theta and vega damage apply too... but let's face it, this market likely won't make it back to 1100 and if it does, I'll be scalping my way on the way up, so, I'll out-earn my short delta (core position) and re-apply the funds I've cut back in the past three days should we do the now crowd-pleasing 1060-1080 retest/re-pop.

    Just my musings for you overnighters. Enjoy!
  • EURUSD move from 1.5060-1.4700 doesn`t seem impulsive to me, but i will give the benefit of doubt, so im 50-50% for USD bottom.

    Either way if we`ve completed 5 waves down from the top, i would expect a 50/68$ retrace in the next days.

    One thing to keep in mind in EUR move, is that all this down move could be a serie of 1-2-1-2, something to keep in watch.
  • gsavli
    And we have a green shoot, ladies and gents!

    german unemployment drops unexpectedly for a puny 0.1%!
  • tradejane
    Yup. The DAX is deceptively flat right now but the banks have staged an extremely strong reversal and are both in the green. Bears beware.

    Today's pivot for the DAX is 5.545. 1st resistance 5.596 2nd resistance 5.697

    Note: a drop below 5.444 would confirm this market turn as the real thing, first support seen at 5.350 area.
  • defenderyou
    I am a member of the Kirkreport.com and occasionally there are things I see that I want to share. Well Kirk is doing an interview with Leigh Drogen today at 12 noon. Well Drogen did an very good take on this twitter site for his hedge fund surfview that I thought I should share with all of you on stocktwits. Here it is
    http://stocktwits.net/leighdrogen/
    He wrote this last night and since he is a momentum long-short manager I thought his analysis of oversold conditions and technical indicators right-on particularly as he connects small-cap, large-cap, gold, USD, and bonds nicely together, and his reflection back the the July sell-off compared to today instructive. Bottom line is probably worth taking a pop on some longs here with good risk-reward but the future direction of this market is anyone's guess. Today will reveal all, or we may just move sideways in some consolidation pattern before direction is decided. This is my personal view. I have never been a good short-side trader but I am pretty good at getting out of longs at the right time. I am drooling at the prospect of buying MTL which is down almost 6 points off its high (trading in low 16s) of 22.05 set just days ago with no bad news and just profit taking on all those who got bull-trapped in this stock the last month. We will see.
  • I think we will get a major short-sqeeze today...but that`s just my opinion.

    I choose the blue pill....
  • tradejane
    That's why I get unhappy when bears rib other bears for being cautious and taking profits regularly. I suspect such people never got stuck in a halted SKF, but I have.
  • PRSGuitars
    I too. Stopped my trading for three months.

    Well, that's not exactly true. The whole story: I made two trades after that during my hiatus Oct 08 - Jan 09.

    #1 Long 40% of my account in Morgan Stanley. 10-10-08 avg price 10.48, sold for 16 the next day. Whoa.

    #2 Long 25% of my account in UYG Dec 3 and 4 calls. 11-21-08 forget the price, but easily a double or more as I sold them the next week (albeit way too early).

    I got lucky (as well as am inherently a countertrend trader and was waiting for real puke moments to push with my chips, so to speak) and will NOT be playing that way again as I never expect to get a situation like that again in my trading career (ie, such events nor circumstances where I'd irresponsibly shove my account into a position). That should go without saying.

    As this all began with SKF -- I was stuck with a quick 14% account loss on that fateful clusterf*** time of the glorious trading journey of the fall of 2008. Did I mention I had no power at my house due to the storms from Hurricane Ike? Yeah, I was trading from the porch of a friend's house, stealing his internet and plugged into his outdoor outlet for power.

    Total crap. Hence when the SKF hit, I was like, well, this is a cue to take a hiatus.

    3 hrs of bed before GDP... ugh. Can't wait (hint: I can wait).
  • tradejane
    I'm sorry this happened to you too. I ended up taking a 5 month hiatus. Hopefully this means I'm better prepared for the next round of craziness.
  • gsavli
    with oversold condition like this...
    It might be some more downwards after GDP in premarket, but if short squeeze starts it might be viciously quick action.
  • If we dont rally today, i dont see the things "bearish"....i see all fucking bears in the world together or a BEARZILLA.

    If we dont go up from here this could be a serie of 1-2-(i)-(ii)-i-ii or something like that.
  • gsavli
    Agree.

    Plus it's bad earnings all over the market now and bad news pileing up and we have now a market susceptible to bad news. It might be a nitroglicerin mixture of some sort.

    ES futs now higher. If we start with gap up (lets see that gdp number first), we might have our short squeeze here as well.
  • tradejane
    DAX did not break the line in the sand, looks like a reversal might be taking place. Hold on tight.

    Update: Definitely a reversal going on, Commerzbank solidly in the green.
  • EWfan
    mole..
    just wanted to tell you that i've been a long time follower of your blog..i feel the need to thank you and let you know you do have an army of loyal silent fans out there who do appreciate your hard work and your teaching..despite some earlier losses, this evil rat will continue to follow you in the dark journey ahead..
  • defenderyou
    I second that motion although I am a relative newbie here - Hurrah to Mole! for his unbelievable effort during these funny times.
  • tradejane
    Thank you Mole. There's much to be said about waking up to a great post like this one but I'll have to drink some more tea first.

    Just this: The bears have stuck together through some very hard times, yet the moment things start going our way the ribbing starts. Does it have to be this way?
  • haigo
    Thanks Mole for this encouraging post! This tape really sucks.
  • Blind_Squirrel
    Mole:

    I really enjoyed the comments in the first section of this post. Very True.
  • Blind_Squirrel
    Mole Said:
    Anna just started her own blog - which probably explains the drop in the comment count. Some of of you guys are actually happy and I personally have mixed feelings. I always appreciated the energy she brought to the blog but I couldn’t stand all the attention mongering by various mentally lazy sycophants following her around to leech the next good trade. I guess that comes with the territory and perhaps some of those hobby traders now finally have a playground where they can roam free. I however wish Anna the best of luck and hope she can keep up the energy. It’s one thing to post once or twice and deliver something brilliant or at least moderately interesting. It’s another to keep up the energy for weeks/months/years. I have been posting here for over a year now nonstop and although I occasionally do get support from a few core contributors, in the end when the going gets tough I often find myself on my own devices. Today was such a day and I think despite all the flak I received as of late I posted some mentally stimulating content. Whether or not I’m completely off the mark - well - we shall see - shan’t we?

    My compliments to you on these remarks, First Class.

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