Analysis Paralysis

Since my return from San Diego I have been diligently perusing the blogosphere in the past 24 hours. And I don’t think I am exaggerating when saying that since last Monday pretty much everyone has turned ‘medium term’ bullish again. Which in a way is weasel speak for ‘the trend remains up because it’s been up for eight months now’. Damn it – even Hochberg suddenly switched from Wednesday’s ‘rips are bearish opportunities’ to a wishy washy ‘mixed stance’ on Friday, which probably freaked out every single option trader following his work. FYI – he’s famous for doing that – Berk opined that the times when he is confident in a top call, he is usually wrong. Times like this when he is unsure, the bottom traditionally falls out. Yes, yes – the eternal trepidations of our financial druids attempting to forecast the future ;-)

Now, as evidence everyone points to a different cocktail of magic TA brew to quickly slip back into the bull costume – I’ve seen it all this weekend. Let’s have a quick role call:

  • A three drives pattern (a.k.a. we stay locked in the long term channel)
  • This was only another X wave (popular among Elliotticians).
  • Evil VIX broke through it’s upper trend line, so the world is ending.
  • Market sentiment is too bearish again (same excuse we had for months now). Admittedly however the AAII reading was the most negative since the conclusion of Primary {1}. This is the only one that worries me.
  • Greedy MMs are pushing the tape up for Nov OPX.
  • A ’seasonal strong period’ (conveniently forgetting that the ’seasonal weak period’ has been AWOL this year).
  • Bernanke’s Revenge.
  • Turn cycle wave of your choice.
  • [fill in bullish argument of your liking]

I personally see some bullish evidence on the horizon but I don’t think this is where everyone should throw in the towel. At this point at the very worst the evidence is still mixed – let me show you:

Yes, we got that snap back rally I expected over a week ago but apparently the P/E ratio has not budged. Very strange behavior and it bodes the question of whether or not we might break that channel the 10-day MA has been trapped in for about a year now.

And yes, the VIX did close below that long term trend line which had three touches in the last year. Wow – I’ll alert the media. Two touches is nothing but a line, three touches maybe is a trend line but not one I would base my entire long term outlook on. Alright, so even if we keep pushing lower here – great – which will get us to below 20 potentially (50% mark of channel), which would be this bear’s wet dream.

My wave count has not changed at this point – plus I don’t really enjoy putting up CYA postings. Of course it’s possible we push higher tomorrow and the next day and the next day but as of right now we have not even touched the fucking 61.8% fib line. If we were close to the 78.6% fib line I’d understand that ya’ll getting cold feet and I’d probably be cursing like Popeye. But let’s give this tape a chance to complete this correction:

We might have a developing fractal in the works again – yes, it seems to be painting the same pattern over and over again.

Or is it? Kindly compare the down trend signal on the PZI (i.e. left side) with the up trend signal. This thing was running on very thin fumes and it’s possible we are seeing a distribution pattern. Which is also supported by the Zero Lite’s flatline throughout the majority of last week.

A higher close on the SPX, the DJI, and the NDX on Friday – not supported by the small caps btw, as the Russell 2000 closed down for the day. Meanwhile the NYSE A/D ratio was barely above 1.0 and there was a clear divergence in comparison with Thursday’s readings at the close.

All eyes right now are on the Euro – and rightfully so. It’s getting a strong bid this evening and most likely we’re going to open higher tomorrow. But are we going to bust higher on steroids? Frankly – I don’t know – but I choose to not freak out unless the tape tells me so.

Emotions are running very thin these days, and I frankly can’t blame you guys. But whatever you do and whoever you listen to – make sure your trades are based on your system and that your system is based on your own solid technical analysis. There are a million ways to peel this onion folks and most everyone is confused right now – some of the toughest tape I can remember. So, get a clue or get out – otherwise you might as well book a Vegas flight over at Southwest – at least Vegas offers hot babes with anatomically impossible curves willing to separate you from your money the good old fashion way ;-)

But hey, what do I know – participation on this blog has shrunk to basically nothing (just look at the prior thread which was up most of the day) and it’s completely understandable as I’m nothing but some loon spouting charting platitudes and exotic wave counts. Doesn’t really mean much unless we can turn all this into some real coin. And that has been tough lately for the bears, thus the sweet smell of capitulation is still hovering in the air. Seems being a bear for more than a week has become quite unfashionable these days – and hey, that’s just fine with me – I am enjoying the solitude.

BTW, big kudos to the Stainless Steel Hamster, who’s been keeping this place from falling into a coma for quite a while now. I won’t forget this, mate – Mole and Berk have elephant memories.

Cheers,

Mole

This entry was posted on Monday, November 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am and is filed under Currencies, Elliott Wave Theory, Market Outlook. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  • hank30
    This is a melt up until the close.
  • hank30
    Hope I'm wrong. Still holding long term puts.
  • hank30
    Heading to 1109...
  • Me_XMan
    What? 1109?
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  • well i guess I'd rather have had a teeth pulled out... they did it again... 70+% probabiliy of a 4th turned into a 1 up impulse...

    i'll get some rest and look things with a fresh view in 1/2 hout
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  • I knew I had Velcro instead of shoelaces for a reason.....
  • raised_by_wolves
    $SPX log Fib fan line resistance (top orange): http://screencast.com/t/24QSmdmwnh

    $SPX non-log Fib fan line support (top orange): http://screencast.com/t/pJ9FLwl3

    $INDU channel line resistance (top purple): http://screencast.com/t/pJ9FLwl3

    $TRAN 25% meridian channel line resistance (second bottom): http://screencast.com/t/qAV0WRF4Y

  • thx much
  • raised_by_wolves
    Oops, I messed up by posting a link twice. I'll repost in the new thread.
  • ClutchShorter
    Okay, DOW 11,000 by end of year. SPX by 1200 by end of year.

    LONG the BULL?
  • CorporalCarrot
    Noone can rule it out, thats for sure, and the end of rallies are often fierce and accompanied by blowoff tops. But from here you are looking at another 900 points.

    And although it probably doesn't feel like it, the last 900 points has effectively taken 3.5 months, as the dow hit 9200 back in late july.

    So you are looking for major acceleration of the move from here in order to get another 900 points in the next 1.5 months, where the momentum is actually waning (despite popular perception).
  • amokta
    Complete jokery. One by one, the 'bears' get picked off by the sharp shooting Bulls. Even EWI (Hochberg) threw a wobbler in their friday update. I think elliott wave analysis (i.e. being completely contrarian, and longer time-frame) may not be so useful to traders who actually want to make money . May be better to run with the 'herd', but be one step ahead (an may be thats where good techinical analysis/indicators help out). I dont think P3 is going to materialise. The market has had its 'waterloo' in March. I think its all uphill/stangnant (with corrections) from now, whether that by inflation or otherwise. Mabe be mahendraprophecy.com Dow 32,000 call isnt so foolish after all !
  • fa_q
    I added my second 1/2 at 1080.5 and 1776. I've got full short positions again.
  • fa_q
    Puts me full short at 1074.25 and 1752.50
  • gsavli
    when are you expecting the turn? today or tomorrow? financials are a bit weak right now, but the whole thing looks like it's consolidating...
  • fa_q
    Today, tomorrow, doesn't matter much. I think it's coming. Financials are fine today but weak overall. I think volume is the key tell today.
  • gsavli
    thx for your opinion.
  • gannsecret
    Mole, Berk and all. I have today as the closing high of this move.
    Maybe we close the gap at 1085 tommorrow then down.
    Starting tommorrow we have the weakest astro of the entire year.
    Looking for mini meltdown for 10 to 13 trading days
  • C's & 3's
    GS - I appreciate your work. Do you have any suggestions to read to learn more on Gann? Is there a service you recommend?
  • gannsecret
    Ganns work was extensive and covers his whole career. Some stuff still used were things he just tried and don't work well. It has taken me 35 years to sort out what works. There is no service I've seen thats very good. Lambert Gann publishing has all his work.
  • C's & 3's
    Thanks
  • CorporalCarrot
    So we ramped, and now we've essentially been camped for half an hour. Which way is the next move?
  • Fucking dollar is down a retarded amount. No wonder we're up today.
  • ClutchShorter
    Yipeee, let's rally off this cliff.
  • Internals are strong enough not 2b fought today, imo. But the divergences now are a little gross.

    Selling the close or any clear stalling looks like a decent set-up
  • roncofooddehydrator
    The next resistance level I'm eyeing for FAS is the 200 EMA on the 2 hour chart (76.38). It was rejected by that back on 10/29. If it breaks through, that would be a good sign of more upside to come.
  • bergs
  • exciting new forum for FAZ/FAS traders.

    don't be an a$$hole - be a FASHOLE!

    fasholes.blogspot.com

  • tradejane
    LOL I should have found this forum a year ago.
  • Focus on the present, plan for the future, learn from the past.

    don't be an a$$hole - be a FASHOLE!
  • On Friday, TDSequential Countdown Sell13 daily was deferred (due to some conditions ) - today it is most likely will be posted - good luck bears
    http://screencast.com/t/6R1ziyk5z1
  • WTFed
    we could be at the top of a right shoulder
  • Bart7
    pushing above the left shoulder highs now though... would need to reverse in a hurry...
  • bananaben
    Mole - I have no doubt anymore that Goldman Sachs and perhaps other PDs are totally rigging the market and have an enormous source of liquidity to do so (ie. HAL9000 + printing press = prosperity). Chris Martenson has done several pieces on his blog about this recently and has chosen not to particiapte in this market. So if none of your methods or indicators are working anymore, this is a good reason why.
  • CorporalCarrot
    That is relentless and awesome. No pullback of any significance whatsoever. Just an unstoppable melt-up.
  • ablebonus
    GDX just took out Oct 13's high. Confirmation of gold's breakout by the miners.
  • bergs
    Thought I should post this reply to Bobthehorse as it was buried down the line.

    I re-read this article at least once a week.

    Excellent

    For those who do not understand here is a article from May. Pretty much will bring one up to speed fast.

    The "Trilla in Manila"
    I would start at paragraph Nine. It is interspersed with the author's opinion.

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/thomson_s/tho...

  • Schwerepunkt
    Link doesn't work.
  • bergs
    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/thomson_s/thomson_s_052909.html

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  • Guest
    A pretty good article - personally I avoid gold, it is way too consensual and I do not see it as a deflation hedge. In deflation, people are hungry for yield and gold has none.
  • bergs
    Oh, I quite agree with you on gold. I put the article up strickley as a
    primer for the bond thing (inflation or deflation). The black hole is now
    open. The primaries are for now in the drivers seat putting the whip to
    Ben.

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  • Wonderful
  • Rightside_ot_trade
    Mole , regarding Russell 2000 (RUT) non confirm on Friday, it is just now at it's 50% retrace of it's Oct 19th -Nov 2nd down move at 589
  • Guest
    I have raised the stop on my day-trade short (@1078 ESZ9). Last week, mkt always made a small high intra-day in first hour of US trading. Don't want to get stopped here. Am still left 30% long, targeting 1090 medium-term objective.
  • Guest
    Just went through my old stop - Ha! let's see what happens.
  • standard_and_poor
    We just busted through 1075, the recent 61.8% fib. level - another increment in the bullish wave count. 77% long and planning to stay long, market has had a bullish wave count, although a bit sloppy at times, since March.
  • WTFed
    Mole-

    Do you see that gap at 1084 Hoch keeps talking about?
  • Bart7
    Hoch looking for reversal there?
  • WTFed
    Possibly. Looks like we'll know soon enough!
  • wrc1k
    Good omen of crash: "Fidelity is currently unable to provide brokerage or mutual fund account information. Please try again later." - Started at market open . . . .
  • Cypherd
    Thanks for all that analysis Mole.

    Financials are looking a bit heavy, WFC at LOD along w/ JPM and MS.
    I continue to keep an eye on ISRG as it struggles to rise with this market. Might pick up some Dec 34 puts on DIG if it gets above 37.
  • ouch, just took a loss on some IWM dec puts. Got my ass beat on those but I guess i needed to exit
  • ClutchShorter
    When do you decide to exit? Assume your initial trade is $2000, do you take a loss at 10%?
  • well I was at breakeven on the close Friday. Gapped up and closed for -25% at the open. I wish it was only a 10% loss lol

  • Great post mole
  • Bart7
    UUP just dropped again, down another 1/2% from the open, down 1.4% total today now. Is it in sync with the dollar itself today or something still out of whack?
  • Nasty divergences out there w DJIA testing highs.
    ...compare to GS and AAPL for ex
  • raised_by_wolves
    Although $TRAN moved above the 25% meridian on the channel I borrowed from Stainless Steel Chicken, it failed to hold that level and has since retreated to that line.

    http://screencast.com/t/qAV0WRF4Y
  • raised_by_wolves
    There's room for $SPX to move up a few more points before hitting Mole's 78.6% Fib line and my 61.8% Fib fan, which you can see here in orange.

    http://screencast.com/t/24QSmdmwnh
  • raised_by_wolves
    There's no more room for $INDU to move up unless it breaks out above an important channel line, the purple one on my chart.

    http://screencast.com/t/pJ9FLwl3
  • I think that brkout very doable, but the fact it will be on its own up there is pretty scary
  • raised_by_wolves
    On the one hand, AAPL and GS aren't up there with it like you pointed out.

    On the other hand, there's AMZN making new highs.

    AMZN needs to break out above my top red line in order to continue on it's path toward my target. If it can't get above 130, the market doesn't go any higher either in my opinion.

    http://screencast.com/t/qAV0WRF4Y
  • Can you repost the fibs on SPX you replied to me w (30 min ago).
    might be me, but seems the posts are gone
  • raised_by_wolves
    Sure, check out the new post at the top.
  • TheMacroEconomist
    Looking at the market profile overlays, the ES strategy today is simple. To stay bullish ES needs to stay out of the 1060s. If ES pulls back in there, especially falling below the 1064 spport/resistance line, then it's back in the very wide sloppy 2+ week trading range centered in 1040s with 1028 as the next real support on the other side.

    If this is really a bullish breakout I'd be looking for more bang for the buck out of the Russell 2000, which took a helluva beating in October. I'm not sure if the smaller stocks of the Russell can benefit as much from the Fed's weak dollar, so be interesting to see what happens.

    Friday's 4.9% VIX drop on just a 0.25% SPX increase probably reflected option MMs "decaying" options early in the flat trade ahead of the weekend. Not looking for a big VIX drop today. (But if we do get one and the VIX gets stretched low, it might be a good time to buy puts on your favorite shorts.)
  • Vardoger
    Bradley turn date 11-9. Looking for 1084 to fill gap and retest TLs today. It's all about the dollar though, watching DJIA for a new high.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/737329/SRspx2.png
  • Schwerepunkt
    Everybody's a goddamned currency expert or at least weak USD commentator these days. Getting ridiculous. I'm waiting for my plumber to start talking about the end of the USD and then I'll short the EUR.
  • TheMacroEconomist
    Indication of the amount of dumb money getting involved in this carry trade thing now. If the plumber (or similar) really does start talking currencies and the weak dollar, that would definitely trigger my anecdotal Bubble Alert.
  • Joe8888
  • derekste
    will be adding to shorts if we touch SPY 108.20
  • ClutchShorter
    Are you sure about that?
  • derekste
    I was at the time ;)

    only 10% on top of what I currently had, fortunately...
  • CorporalCarrot
    Bob & others.

    A question for you if you are reading this. I take it you are short term bullish and long term bearish, expecting a major crash at some point, just not yet.

    My question is what do you think Bernanke and Co are afraid of, that isn't obvious to everyone else?? Because whatever their motives, they are not stupid people, and can surely see that this is a possibility. They have the same (or better) data than us. They see that unemployment continues to rise. They can see the credit data that shows that for all the liquidity they are pumping in, its not making it out to the real world. I could go on but you get the picture.

    They know as well as anyone else that the higher the market goes, the harder it will fall when it eventually corrects. This will not be good for anyone except people who are short, but they obviously believe that this is the lesser of two evils, and that by taking the current course of action, they can accomplish "something" desirable in the interim.

    If you discount the global conspiracy theories, and all the GS theories (which I personally do not believe), what exactly is their game?
  • Guest
    They are terrified (quite rightly) of a debt-deflation spiral. The debt build-up is so huge that falling nominal asset prices will collapse the system. It was allowed to get totally out of control (Thanks Alan). We can't simply unwind the mistakes but there are only two options.

    1. Allow the markets to collapse which would be short-term catastophic, everyone would lose their home and no bank would survive. Bondholders everywhere take a huge hit but then we start again - the Austrian solution.

    2. Try and counter the deflation with reflation. The plan here is to allow the real value of assets to fall (the simple mathematical consequence of deleveraging) but prevent nominal price falls by propping up the money supply. This is the path Bernanke has chosen.

    For as long as the plan is working, you need to be long equities as they are a nominal asset play. If we hit a tipping point whereby the bond markets will not finance the currency debasement at these yields, the Fed become the primary buyer of debt - that is a Zimbabwe scenario. Do you want to be short equities here? No - Zim was the best performing stock market in the world IN LOCAL CURRENCY TERMS even if rubbish in real terms.

    The real risk to equities are that any cyclical improvement (or $ funding crisis) makes the politicians rein in the Fed and stop the printing press. Then we are back into deflation again. Equities don;t really like inflation - they de-rate and perform poorly in real terms - but the nominal values hold up. Look at the 1970's - this was a huge bear market in real terms but they never really fell in nominal terms.
  • bergs
    Excellent

    For those who do not understand here is a article from May. Pretty much will bring one up to speed fast.

    The "Trilla in Manila"
    I would start at paragraph Nine. It is interspersed with the author's opinion.

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/thomson_s/thomson_s_052909.html
  • centerline
    Fed data looking weak on ability to effectively continue the current course of action it seems.
  • CorporalCarrot
    Fascinating thanks.

    I wonder however, isn't this predicated on being able at some point, to transition gradually from one state to another?? i.e. to gradually withdraw the spigot, whereas we know with the way this market trades on such a short term basis, that this will not happen and we will have a crash of incredible magnitude?
  • Guest
    No one, including Bernanke or myself, has a Scooby-Doo whether such a transition is even possible. I'm sure the Japanese thought it was temporary as well. There will definitely be a collapse of some sort at some point. The key question is when and from where? I don't think it is here and now for all the reasons I have been mentioning in the last few days. I do think the risk level early next year is going to be very high.
  • centerline
    Agreed. Very smart people. Fighting a fight that is layers deeper than we see - and far more complicated as well. I think they already have a good indication of where we are going, and have a responsibility to do what they can to avoid catastrophic events. That is, attempt to let the air out of any given bubble in a controlled manner. Not necessarily to attempt to fix the problem. In attempting to fix the problem (interfering with free markets as they have done), all new risks are borne. I think that somewhere in the tampering with the free market is where the concern will be found.
  • centerline
    Morning. Catching up on weekend reading here...trying to get prepared for the day.

    Bobthehorse... very nice calls last week. So far it has played out - and right on Mole's bullish path as well. Should be an interesting day today.

    funny... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Ev5HgGACg&feature=player_embedded
  • Guest
    thanks - we had a top week, +3.8%. not without a few worries though.
  • dollar
    Good post Mole. Perhaps the low attendence is a good indicator also.
  • CorporalCarrot
    The dollar has been taken behind the bike sheds and given a bloody good thrashing. I don't know if its gonna make it. Dow will surely make a new high today, although without broader participation won't manage a close above it.
  • Nightwind
    Thanks Onorio and Ultra. I was looking at the USD and thinking....hey everybody says this is a 5 wave up but then it looks like it is being corrected by a 5 wave down. Maybe I'm misintrepreting the wave form.
  • bergs
    Triple ziggy thing here.

    http://screencast.com/t/qOeWK8iydL6
  • LadyBaron
    Mole, thanks for your analysis! Hope your business trip went well last week.

    This tape has been extremely difficult to navigate and your unbiased analysis is the absolute best! Emotions running thin is the truth . . . . wondering if thorazine may help LOL. I keep clearing my plate to watch it as I draw my lines in the sand . . . . I'm starting to think it's illegal for the market to go down . . . . maybe Congress can write that into their crazy a*s bill too.

    Just wanted to say thanks again! Your blog has been a tremendous help to my trading. Now . . . . I just need to bank some coin and quit getting caught in the melt-up grinder, yet again.

    Thanks again!
  • Nightwind
    Dumb EW question? Is there a time when a 5 waves up is corrected by 5 waves down with no ABC in between?
  • W5 (up) followed by W1 (down) or inverse.
  • Yes. When there is a trend change e.g. at the top in 2007 we were finishing an impulse move (the 5-wave final c of cycle wave B up from 2003) and looking for a new impulse down, cycle wave C down (of which we are awaiting the now infamous primary wave 3).
  • killafox
    New lows to dollar. wheres is going spx?? probably new highs.
    check out at http://marketrendwaves.blogspot.com/ updates about eurdollar dollar and spx

    regards and goodtrades
  • ClutchShorter
    The pain continues. Nothing can bring down this market.

    High Unemployment = Market Rallies
    Health Care Bill = Market Rallies
    120th bank failure = Market Rallies
    End of POMO = Market Rallies
    Subpar Earninga = Market Rallies

    People are expecting the market to correct when the FEDS withdraw liquidity sometime next year. Since all the major banks/institutions know this, they can press this tape even higher and higher.

    You look at companies like AMZN, BIDU at all time highs (higher than the bull market peak in 2007) and you ask yourself, WTF is going on in this world.
  • Me_XMan
    Since it reached my target at 1100. Next target 1200? Damn!
  • gmak
    The market will come down when the money runs out. Why worry about data when the market is not responding to fundamentals. It is responding to how much money is entering the system.
  • ClutchShorter
    That's what everyone thinks. If money stops entering the system, you'll have bears that jump on the band wagon only to be screwed over once again. This tape can be manipulated. What if it continues to rally only with minor corrections.
  • Nightwind
    You're right, but I think it is when the bears quit covering or go to the sidelines.
  • gmak
    Treasury is auctioning off $61 bb in 3 and 6 mont bills and $42 bb in 3 year. Apparently 10s were being sold by Asians who were leveraging and going into equities. US treasuries are underperforming Bunds which may make the 3 year auction interesting.

    Meanwhile the St. Louis FED pres, Bullard, lays out a case for USD toilet paper and inflation in 2 to 4 years in the Financial Times.
  • Me_XMan
    Inflation means higher market? Everyone in the 'hood want to own stocks.
  • raised_by_wolves
    Excellent post, Mole.

    My long-term puts have been hedged with short-term calls. Since my focus has been on trading the short-term calls, I've been thinking more like a bull. Picture me as a bull in a fighter jet with warning indicators flashing. I have one eye on the dashboard and the other on the eject lever.

    The question you asked is key: "But are we going to bust higher on steroids?" While I've upgraded the probability of you blue scenario playing out, I'm also expecting reversals at any of the Fib lines.
  • Joe8888
  • Nightwind
    If Hochberg was a trader and taking his own advice, the only wave 3 down he has seen would be his trading account. Mole, at least you show both sides of the coin which I may not like, but it helps me think about defensive stategy in either direction.
  • raised_by_wolves
    I, for one, have always loved Mole's multiple scenarios with wave counts approach.
  • Nightwind
    I do too, bad wording on my part.
  • raised_by_wolves
    Did you mean to write something like "which may not make me confident in one outcome over another"?

    Most people don't like the state of mind where they don't know. I'm different because I actual like not knowing. I also like thinking I know if I did enough thinking on my own. The state of mind that I dislike and try to avoid is thinking I know based on someone else doing all the thinking for me.
  • If you are able to embrace the mental state of not knowing you have made large stride toward becoming a stone cold stainless steel rat.

    1+
  • raised_by_wolves
    Thanks Mole.

    My money management used to horrifyingly bad, but I've worked to improve it. I still don't use a single method or system; I'm always experimenting in that area. What I've worked on the most and developed the best has been my trader psychology.
  • good place to start in such a mkt
  • Nightwind
    Well written. EW is new to me and I try to line it up with my TA accessments. This tends to make me lean one way or the other (yes, I'm bias). But I'm smart enough to know that I can be wrong at least 50% of the time. In my head you have to be somewhat bias or you could not trade
  • raised_by_wolves
    (1) I still haven't read "the Bible" on EW theory and so don't attempt my own wave counts yet.

    (2) Sometimes during periods of low volatility ranging, I use conditional orders and set up trades in both directions. The goal is for one of the conditions to be met and one of the trades to be executed. The other condition/trade is a stop loss. Although I'm not bullish- or bearish-biased in such instances, I am biased against ranging and whipsawing and biased toward a breakout with a new trend developing in either direction.
  • gmak
    Pre-Market warm up
    I think it helps if one understands how to read the FED’s B/S – and clearly I’ve been focusing on the wrong number.

    Go look at the FED balance sheet that gets published here every Thursday at close.
    http://www.federalreserve.gov/RELEASES/H41/

    Scroll down and look at the line "Reserve balances with Federal Reserve Banks" that is just above the Notes. Compare this value to the previous week's. This is the amount of liquidity poured into the financial system. Last Wednesday, it was at 1.062 trillion. The Wednesday before, it was 1.080 trillion. Thus, there was a contraction of almost 18 billion – IN THE RESERVE BALANCES. I believe that this means that liquidity was put into the system because the money from the reserve balances had to go somewhere. (Please someone, correct me if I’m wrong. Stop me before I rant again. Heh). The market went up.

    The previous week, the number went up by 24 billion and the market went down. MORE NET RESERVES = FALLING ASSET PRICES. Unfortunately, it appears that this number is a hindsight number and will not help with trading – but it will help understand why asset prices are rising. Might be a good idea to compare the change in this value with the change in the S&P since the peak in 2007.


    Equity
    The SPX daily shows that the ULTRAVIOLET trend line from the 666 low held on the retrace. It will likely be breached this AM if the pounding on the USD, and the ES are any indications. The next daily resistance is up at the BIG WHITE trend line (from the peak in 2007) which is around 1105 for today (and declining day by day).

    SPX daily is overbought again according to TD Pressure, and volume has been declining every day the market has moved up. I don’t know what today will do, but the TA says time for an interim correction.

    Asia was green. Europe is green. The only red sector in the DAX is Technology (looks like rotation into everything else). DAX opened up and hasn’t looked back.

    ES has been in a steady march upward – especially at the Europe open at 2AM EST, overnight. Pivots are as follows:
    R2: 1079 – this is where ES is knockin’ right now. Will the market let it in?
    R1: 1072.75 – This was resistance but is now support. We crossed thanks to Europe and usied it to launch up to R2.
    Neutral: 1063 – This was support going into lockup on Friday. It is also the location for several different TD support indicators. Any correction would likely bounce here – all TA things being equal
    S1: 1056.75 – This was strong support on Friday AM.
    S2: 1047 – ho ho ho! Merry Xmas! This was support for the launch from Nov 5th at the Europe open.

    FX
    Wow, is all I can say. The USD was just hammered starting November 3rd. It’s a parabolic move overnight. Looking at the EUR shows a steady march up off of the neutral pivot.

    USD is weaker, CAD is up over a cent point two-five. EUR is up 1.5 cents and GBP is up 1.9 cents. JPY is close to flat. The Jekyll and Hyde continues. The G20 did nothing to support the USD and the IMF comes out and says that the USD is still overvalued. German industrial production was better than expected so the EUR bulls are carrying the flag.

    EUR pivots:
    R2: 1.4959 - We’re already above this and gunning for the recent high of 1.5063.
    R1: 1.4959 – There were a lot of sell stops here and they got taken out over the course of a couple of hours this AM.
    Neutral: 1.4859 – Around where it all began last night
    S1: 1.4803 – Nothing to say
    S2: 1.4758 - Launchpad for the EUR ramp on Nov 4the around 8AM EST.

    News
    IMF gives kiss of death to USD.
    Oil prices rise in the face of big supply, which suggests carry trade and moored ships awash with the black gold.
    China’s corn harvest is down 13% from drought. SO when the futures prices climb, it is not inflation but supply /demand imbalance.
    When two tribes go to war: Venezuela is mobilizing its army while Colombia sweats.

    Data
    Nothing today. Let the games rule SPX!



    What is my opinion? SPX has retraced to the long term lower trend line. This usually suggests a dump. However liquidity was put into the system in the week ending last Wed, as indicated by the falling reserves at Fed Reserve banks. 1101.36 was the high on Oct 21. That is the magic number for a higher high. SPX still has NOT had a lower low. For longer term direction, SPX is in a wait and see mode. For the shorter term, we are due for a retrace.

    My personal belief is that the overall direction will be up until the MBS program has no effect at the margin. I’m not sure if there is enough liquidity to come (with all the TAF maturities happening and the end of POMO) to take SPX above the last high of 1102ish, though
    Today, we’re already 10 points above Friday’s close which will put SPX above the ULTRAVIOLET trend line, and above the mid Bollinger. In spite of this, SPX is at an overbought stage on declining volume. This suggests we are due for a retrace down sometime this week. (every day last week was green) – six and seven up days in a row is entering rarefied territory).

    Cheers.

  • morrise
    The breadth indicators support your position...slight turn up in BPI's, etc....looking short finance, real estate..
  • Thanks for your analysis Mole! Great stuff as usual! Quality of the comments here are the best anywhere!
  • raised_by_wolves
    You know you're a bear if you catch yourself automatically substituting "short" for "long" where Centrifugal Deforest writes such things as, "I am looking to get aggressively long RINO once the offer is priced." You know you're a permabear if you're doing a double take right now because some punk who's long AMZN has had to point this out to you.
  • momac
    Great post Mole, I'll hold my ground for a bit more, hopefully p3 comes soon. I'll just try to get more evened out with calls. This mornings action is going to hurt though, Yikes, futures up 100 when I woke up.
  • Good morning everybody, during this hard times I've been rereading Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, Edward Lefevre's memoirs of jesse livermore.

    A must to rerread during hard times. Have to make it on time to the dentist (teeth scrapping, trying to save my gums and teeth) BRB

    Nice hunting and keep hope, look at SPX:Gold, downtrend is active
  • tradejane
    Do you also have his book "How to Trade in Stocks"?

    http://tinyurl.com/ygo3rhs

    Oooh, I feel with you about the dentist appointment. Lay off the cheeses for a few days afterwards, it heals better.
  • nopes, but it's his memoirs all right (was running for the exit and forgot to write)
  • wex
    I think Reminiscences is a much better book.
  • tradejane
    Me too. Those were much happier times then. 1940 was a really depressing time for traders. If I remember correctly poor guy couldn't even conceive volatility ever making a comeback at this point.
  • CorporalCarrot
    It looks to be shit-or-get-off-the-pot time for the US$ and for EWI's P3 scenario, which I understand hinges on the Dxy not making new lows.
  • One of my half-baked theories is that you are probably best figuring out what would confuse the most people e.g. making new dollar *correction* lows (durrr) right here would tell a lot of folks that (by EWI's yardstick) this was not P3 just yet - so I would say this is therefore unlikely to happen just now. Keep 'em dangling a little while longer...
  • goldpackers
    Believe mkt will be very choppy till year end and buying options(puts or calls) will be a tough money making proposition with chop and the holidays. Basically 1020 to 1100.
  • Guest
    have just gone down to 30% long, reasonably tight stop. day trade short. ESZ9 at resistance 1078/79
  • raised_by_wolves
    What has made you a more cautious bull?
  • Guest
    I am always cautious, whether bullish or bearish. It's a simple mathematical thing. If I am targeting 1090, then being 200% long at 1030 makes sense if I can fix my risk at a tight stop. At 1078, the risk-reward proposition is totally different, hence I am now 30% long but I would add on a pull-back. I have no idea what the market is going to do - I only have what I assess the probabilities to be and I trade accordingly. I always consider what I will do if the market does not do what I think. The last few days have been trading perfection to be honest but it doesn't always (often) go like that.
  • Drainage
    Mole, this is a great post.
    Full of steely-eyed rational though, with a good reminder to all of us to keep from being emotional.

    Thank You!
  • Autopsias
    Hey mole, great post as always!
    Yesterday Rammstein came to Lisbon and me and another fellow ES honoured you in there! You were remembered!
    Guess what again Rammstein inspired the Market to come my way during the night to my long positions eur/usd and gbp/usd...what else can one ask for?:)
  • EURUSD - moment of truth?

    http://screencast.com/t/PwpqR4hP5
  • Nice chart U!

    That`s a huge abc but i`ll buy that.

    At this point, and from what i can see in EUR and SPX we`re probably on a X wave cenario.

    This move could be the X of a XYZ. That means that Y to new short term lows probably arround 1020 and more BULLshit ahead.
  • Anything is possible. That would screw quite a lot of folks. I can also see us dropping a bit here and then going straight up. Don't see how any Elliottician can look at $INDU and seriously still think there are very large odds that this is P3. This is the elephant chart in the room.

    But hey what the hell do I know?
  • $INDU futures missed a new high for 5 pts 1/2 hour ago...

    IMO P3 is 90% invalidated at this point, i only see 2 options right now.

    1) or we`re on a XYZ with this 1030-1070 move as X and with Y to a new short term low.

    2) the XYZ is completed and we`re in for new highs, probably with a retrace to 1050/60 before it. (mole`s blue pill)
  • tradejane
    Why not? It looks... overheated. It can stay that way for a while. Cable is another one. It had a resistance at 1.67, now forming a possible IHS on the 3 month chart. While it could stop at 1.70, the 1.75 or even 1.80 seem like possible targets too...

    http://www.screencast.com/t/VL14HHkpI34d

    edit: My comments are obviously longer term not daytrade. As far as the day goes, a pullback would be perfectly reasonable.
  • These fibs in cable are interesting enough to share, I think - http://screencast.com/t/dh9DqU2gT9Oy
  • tradejane
    Thanks. Seems like a retest of previous resistance at 61.8%, if it breaks possible support at 23.8%.
  • Not been paying enough attention to cable recently - I fancy a little USD strength this morning...
  • CorporalCarrot
    Bob

    Just on that AAII sentiment reading..............I hear what its saying but it doesn't jive with what I'm feeling, namely that everyone is bullish.

    Does anyone see any significance with the fact that the Dow has really taken the lead here? I mean, it looks like putting in a new high today or at least touching the recent high, but the S&P is lagging somewhat.
  • goldpackers
    Financials are weighing down S&P. Still believe only bearish count is this is an X wave that should top tomorrow +/- a day and down into 11-16/17, possibly 11-23/24 - 1010 to 1029.

    I must respect the sentiment numbers and they don't support much downside short term. FAZ rally is only an ABC. Hopefully it bottoms in X wave today.

    I have been prognosticating a top 11-9/10 and low on 11-16/17 for some time. Time to put up or shut up!!
  • Guest
    Very dangerous game ignoring data and going on your feelings. I think people were very bullish - that is why they reacted so violently last month. People were too complacent and too long. They were up for the year and saw it all going down the toilet. There was a mini liquidation event, a lot of stocks (good hedge fund hotels) were slammed 25% then people smashed futures so they could report low net exposure at the end of the month. It looks a lot like 2005 to me, where you got people spoofed out of the market before the year-end rally they had all been anticipating.

    I never ignore extreme readings like the AAII - if nothing else, it will encourage others to get involved. If you have been under-performing this year, you will see that as your chance to play catch-up into year-end.

    I'm not surprised the INDU is leading - you would expect rotation into large caps at this point of the rally. It tells us it is quite mature which I think it is. The internals tell me we are setting up for a big correction. But it is not now. As I have said, I expect us to see 1090 where I will get flat at the very least and more likely flat with some downside gamma, depending on where vol has got to.

    There is a chance the floodgates open and we just see a melt-up but it is not the likeliest scenario. Sentiment will continue to be volatile in my view as there is just so much debt, it is very easy for people to get fearful. Any suggestion that stimulus will be withdrawn can trigger that.
  • not half bad scenario... the 2005 comparison might actualy stick... we'll see
  • CorporalCarrot
    Bob,

    I'm not really trading on feelings. As I explained when I outlined my position last week, I'm kind of an interested observer at this point, hedging existing assets that I'm tied into with short market hedges, but trying to pinpoint the moment to go beyond merely hedging and actively getting exposed to the downside.

    One question I would really value your opinion on. Its clear to me that looking at fundamentals, this market has gotten completely ahead of any kind of traditional method of valuation (or at the very best, is discounting a huge amount of future earnings growth in the current stock price). It has become a liquidity driven global macro trade that could get very irrrational before gravity takes over. At what point do you think reality will catch up with price? What is the absolute max price you could see for the Dow over the next 6 months?
  • Guest
    I'm not convinced this market is trading ahead of fundamentals. From what I look at, those fundamentals are accelerating and we are about to see a lot of growth over the next 2 quarters. With operational leverage high, the earnings growth we will get is going to be pretty extraordinary. However, I don't think equity markets are miles behind either. But you never sell equities when earnings are accelerating.

    I think fundamentals will start to roll over early next year. Whether equities roll over first we will have to see. We'll have to assess it as we go. Where could equities get to, based on fundamentals? I could make a case for 1250. It will be an inter-generational sell there in my view but I could understand that happening over the next 3 months, let alone 6.

    I base 1250 on my macro models - it's not a forecast but that would be my bull case of GDP numbers. How much of that is real growth and how much is liquidity is not the point. Equities price themselves off nominal earnings growth.
  • goldpackers
    Earnings comparisons will not get tough until second to fourth quarter of next year. Mkt will look ahead and see this but when? March/June 2010.

    ST still have to add a short at 1076 OB today and stick to game plan
  • Guest
    it's the top line forecasts that are really lagging right now. When we get an inventory rebuild cycle (and it is about to happen I promise), the revneu upgrades will push eps estimates up a lot. That takes the mkt to a euphoric high when it extrapolates that forward and then the removal of stimulus drops us back in the crap.
  • goldpackers
    Key is what sectors benefit the most?
  • Guest
    Construction stocks look great to me right now
  • goldpackers
    ie JEC CAT?
  • Guest
    I am a European specialist so I would do a lot more research on this but I like the construction materials stocks in Europe. A US peer is Vulcan Materials but I know very little about it specifically. But if I am right on the European names, it should be fine.
  • goldpackers
    Thanks.
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