Final Count Down

Back in early March I suggested the period looming ahead would be an extremely difficult and trying time for the bears. After a violent sell off stretching more than 500 days some very basic rules defined in Elliott Wave Theory suggested that a complex and extended correction was ahead, which is why I was not looking forward to 2009 – I knew it would be tough. Of course what we got did more than live up to its expectations and this bear market rally retracing more than 60% will surely be remembered by generations of traders.

As I am mostly an options trader I did not see a huge opportunity trading the market up in early March and April. As some of you remember the options market was completely shot to hell at that time – you could have driven a truck through some of those bid/ask spreads, volatility was sky high, and unless you loaded up on vertical spreads or focused on far ITM options a drop in vega would have wiped out most of your profits. I personally thought that DJI 10,000 was a real possibility (go and check my March 9th post) and decided to wait things out. Of course little did I know that the whole affair would stretch out for 9 months. And we might not be done just yet.

Let me repeat that corrective waves, especially at Primary degree, are very difficult to count and anticipate. Which is usually also the type of period in which Elliott Wave Theory loses most of its luster and critics decry it as a hindsight analysis at best and mental masturbation at worst. Frankly, I have to concede that trying to pick a top is a very precarious endeavor and although I got the swings almost spot on I was surprised by this bear market rally’s ever buoyant ability to bounce back.

I have now slightly changed the labeling on my long term chart. What I’m seeing is short term bad news for the bears but also long term excellent news for the bears. Let me explain:

At this stage there is a good chance that we might be completing the 5th wave of an rising ending expanding diagonal – a very rare beast in terms of occurrences when counting waves but also a very powerful one. Let me quote Prechter in our bible:

[What's important to understand about ending diagonals in general is that] they are usually followed by a sharp decline retracing at least back to the level where they began and typically much further. Fifth wave extensions, truncated fifths, and ending diagonals all imply the very same thing: dramatic reversal ahead. At some turning points, two of these phenomena have occurred together at different degrees, compounding the violence of the next move in the opposite direction.

So,let’s think about this for a second. We seem to be melting up here on very low participation (check the Zero chart if you are a sub). It’s understandable that we’re now in for a little sell off as the ES futures enjoyed eight consecutive up days until today (unless we close higher EOD at which point it would be nine days, which happened only once in trading history, and the last time actually was last September). What we are seeing today is more of an ‘endured’ retracement – I don’t see much panic here, and the Zero Lite is only registering a mildly negative reading. It’s a possibility that after relieving some of the overbought conditions today and perhaps tomorrow we are then ready to proceed to the upside and push into 1130 or perhaps even higher into 1050. That would qualify as a respectable throw over and I can guarantee you that it would shake out most of the remaining bears. Which of course would be the perfect moment for the tape to make a complete u-turn and rapidly proceed to the downside. Why? Because it would hurt most of the market participants.

I have to concede that all the above is purely based on Mole’s mental masturbation. Sometimes I get it right and sometimes I don’t. But the above scenario is not completely implausible and would give the Dollar time to perhaps paint a final low – maybe in the 73 cluster.

The orange scenario on the chart suggests that Primary {2} finally ended yesterday – and although my Jan/March and especially my Dec puts would greatly appreciate that scenario I can only give it about 35% at this point. What we need at this stage is a bearish ’shock and awe attack’ if you will – I don’t think the usual slow sell off will scare any of the dip buying monkeys. The bears need step in strong and force those bulltards to watch their positions be completely obliterated in one nasty drop – perhaps 300-400 points on the Dow in one day, and then some. Perhaps, a little mini-crash – yes – something to keep them off the buy button long enough to drag this thing low enough for a trend change. For the current psychology out there will keep sustaining a continuous dip buying loop – which is understandable as the next high seems to be only a week away. I mean I have friends email me boasting about their long gains and calling me foolish (not directly but in a tongue in cheek way) for being so bearish.

Remember, people are habitual creatures and sometimes it takes a cold shower or a smack in the face to wake them up and change their habits. Similarly, we need a drastic change in climate – something that announces that winter has moved in and that you’d better dress warm because it’s going to get nasty out there. And until that ice storm happens we’ll have to watch them buy this thing higher until they finally run out of oxygen.

So, in summary – at this stage I would actually prefer to see the tape bust higher and that soon. Let them complete this diagonal and also allow for a little throw over. This would be a perfect setup to get positioned to the downside – I am already but would probably load up just a bit more should we see fall things into place.

And what if I’m completely wrong and we keep driving higher and higher for months and months? Well, maybe then it’s time for Mole to look for greener pastures. I was offered a very lucrative franchise opportunity that’s simply out of this world. What you guys think?

This entry was posted on Thursday, November 12th, 2009 at 2:53 pm and is filed under Elliott Wave Theory, Market Outlook. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  • marcopolo101520
  • centerline
    FWIW, the fractal play has changed IMO. This pattern is not like others at this point, thanks to the divergences in so many indexes. It is now more of a hybrid that suggests the top could be in (I know - shame on me for saying it) - but we might have a few days of chop before any meaningful retracement occurs if the hybrid fractal plays out.

    I could be all wrong of course... 1122 does seem to have a magnetic pull lately and I still think we could hit it before OPEX. I am maybe 50-50 here on this one - which is why I am sitting on my hands for now - still parked in long-term shorts.

    However, on the bearish side, we did close below the 1091 pivot. It would be nice to see this hold as a ceiling tomorrow. Next pivot down I believe is 1071. Some of my puts are green today and it would nice to see more of them in the green tomorrow. Will be watching the VIX tomorrow as well of course. Little course correction going on over there today. Hope it holds.
  • Get a Dunkin Donuts franchise - know a family that has 3 stores, their 16 year old kid driving a porche 911 turbo, yes I'm envious
  • tradejane
    Two superb posts one after the other. We are not worthy! Danke schön!

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  • Went long IYR via DRN (at 121.9), although with a half-normal-size position. IYR seems to be finding solid support at yesterday's low / Tuesday's high. On the next up move, I think the October high will get taken, but the September high will not.
  • cramar
    Can't have the Dow close down triple digits! Bad for image.
  • What do I think of your franchise opportunity? If it has to do with food, I think you must be crazy! I can see you are going to do it. If burgers are your passion, have at it! Think of all the puts you could buy with that franchise fee!
  • gmak
    SPX has been soundly rejected from the BIG WHITE long term trend line. Next test will be the lower trend line that began in March 2009. Mid Bollinger is below at 1073.52.

    Usually where SPX has seen a green day flanked by two red days, it has gone on to retrace down some more.
  • Intra-market divergence as $TRAN and $COMPQ have yet to breach their Tuesday's low. Market likely looking for a turn up from very near here to finish out a FINAL push. As I said, 1117 looks good in $SPX, 1815 in $NDX, 2207 in $COMPQ, 11450 in $DWC, and 10425 in $INDU.

    Conveniently, it this final push should take us right into a major turning date. Could be some fun stuff...

    Skål!
  • Bart7
    what's your turn date, November 16, 17?
  • Start on the 17th. I have a few cycle dates that either overlap with the 17th, or push until as late as the 22nd.

    Skål!
  • gregn
    Where is gannsecret when you need him?
  • Scratching either his ass or head like the rest of us?!?

    Skål!
  • gregn
    I think you were MIA when he stormed off.
  • Yeah, I tend to be MIA a lot here lately. Fucking life refuses to put itself on hold JUST because I want to enter some trades. Get a life you fucking life...

    Skål!
  • Tronacate
    You fucking cuss too much........I think I'll head for the site with the pussy.......what's her name again?
  • Are you fucking shitting me? I fucking cuss to damn much. That is just a bunch of fucking bull-shit. Maybe you should take your pussy-ass self somewhere else. If you can't swim with the fucking sailors, get out of the god-damned ocean...

    Skål!
  • Wow - Berk - I didn't think you had it in you :-)

    What happened to the Southern gentleman thing?
  • Tronacate
    I think you might need a counseling session with my pastor:

    He'll fucking straighten YOUR sorry ass out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddBKXDEsTIc






  • That is some awesome satire.
  • gregn
    Hahah
  • mediatik
    bear flag on the 1 min and 5 min
  • gmak
    EUR has filled the Gap from Monday Asia AM. Looks like we are testing the 38% pivot at 1.4833. This was also support on Friday the 6th of Nov at the close. Is the FCB calvary coming over the hill? Doesn't look like it, yet.

    A break of 1.4828 will take EUR down to below 1.4780 where there is another pivot. A bounce here would likey get defeated at 1.4877 (the 50% FIB) which already stopped a retrace opportunity earlier in the AM (USA).
  • gmak
    Mole:

    Diversification is good. A Franchise may have a negative correlation with a bear options position.
  • Jeeezzzz - guys, I was KIDDING!
  • de3600
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1knx2NLCS0 are we gonnd go thru this again yawn............
  • Publius Federali
    We should all pray for a market decline. That is what most sheeple do not get. If the market continues to rise it will signal that the dollar is collapsing, which is also the immediate collapse of our entire way of life. It is amazing how short sighted our politicians and public are. Market up means America down. Bears are actually the most patriotic of us.
  • de3600
    American will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter or lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln
  • Tronacate
    Just like a Brit's tooth......rotting from the inside..........(hope you all take this right...:))
  • Publius Federali
    LOL
  • Tronacate
    Maybe we should consult G-d.....Mr. Blankface.
  • Santinii
    FWIW - IWM just closed its gap from Monday
  • Captain Obvious
    Mole, I like the expanding diagonal and it fits nicely with Eric's rooftop scenario (assuming there is a sunroof on that guy)
  • Tronacate
    IYR.....sweet
  • Very much so! Looking for a bounce at 42.
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Looks like we are oversold... Look for a rally now lol
  • gregn
    Hahaha
  • roncofooddehydrator
    That's what I'm leaning towards. FAS is sitting right around the 30 and 200 EMAs on the 2hr chart - lots of resistance to break through.
  • EVAN
    Mole, excellent post, i dare to say your best ever.
  • You must be new here - I had a few good ones in my time. And they'll get better once we start dropping again ;-)
  • Guest
  • Good stuff Mole. Not a huge fan of the expanding diagonal (though it could be a 5-3-5-3-5 variety). I also think the ED could fit well with this long term topping process. Looks like we will need at least on last push to kill this rabbit. Looks a lot like 1120 is in the cards. I'd love the market to prove me wrong here, but I would also love another push into the reversal dates surrounding the 17th of this month.

    Skål!
  • Rare praise from Berk - must mark calendar.
  • Just looking at the MACD on AMZN - it's been dead for a wee while now - in my ken, when MAs converge for a sustained period, it usually portends a violent move one way or t'other. I wonder which?
  • momac
    Well, we've had our correction today so up another 20 spx points tomorrow.
  • Tronacate
    Dollar is gettin' on a roll now....
  • derekste
    mole, great post. I will support your franchise plans if they involve building an In-N-Out burger somewhere near Chicago... :)

    I've been trading only a little over year now, and attribute most of my recent gains to strategies, analysis, and discipline learned here from your posts as well as your site's comments. danke.
  • Niktus
    Is that the Stig?
  • derekste
    Some say that he lives in a tree, and he uses his bowel movements as a technical indicator... all we know is... he's called the Stig!

    /hope that answers your question
  • maybe they (the battered bears and the belligerent bulltards) push it up at the close...
    then we GAP down tomorrow? That would mess with both sides of the camp...
  • goldpackers
    believe the gap down is monday morning
  • THAT'S A MOLE POST, I'm çeaving for dinner, but will be back and would like to discuss ALT counts

    best regards

  • goldpackers
    The financials are saying we are CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • If Steve Liesman cut himself shaving would his head explode?
  • PRSGuitars
    Ever popped a zit before?
  • that was my thinking - wish i could just pop that guy
  • de3600
    lmao that cracked me up
  • Tronacate
    Nice volume on the drops.......very thin on the upside
  • RINO reports b4 the open tomorrow. Was acting gr8 today and now slicing ugly.

  • de3600
    Anyone watching the big ass h and s on fslr I bought march 70 puts
  • well done - that stock a real pig
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    How dare this market go down....
  • SSurfer8
    It's not down, it's just vertically challenged.
  • Drainage
    The hell with fries on the moon - sell stocks!

    I agree on a little higher before much lower - but am prepared for the impulse up to be an intra-day spike. The sentiment seems to have shifted from buy the dips to sell out of positions at key targets (1100 has been a magnet, I'm sure there are a pile of sell orders lined up at 1110, 1115...). Any of those impulses may provide enough of an automated sell to kick off a real correction.
  • Marc45
    Nice post Mole. As an observation, a lot of your posts lately have been filled with wishful thinking. ie. If we could only drop to this level or some negative comments regarding the "bulltards". Reality is that as a bear, you are fighting an artificially sweetened sentiment courtesy of our Treasury. This is the only way they know how to operate. While the best course for the world would be an orderly deleveraging and a return to investing based on supply/demand, the central banks in concert with the politicians see this as death for them. Fundamentally, things will eventually come back around but not until we see massive selling by the commercials and an "all in" mentality by the retail investors. I believe that we are getting close to this and when we get there it will be obvious and the trend will have changed for real. Right now, the best a bear can hope for is the occasional correction.

    FWIW, I'm not long or short. I just scalp intraday. Then I sleep better.
  • Yeah yeah yeah - I heard it all before. This is the same song the bears were singing at the 666 bottom. We are doomed - the market will slide into oblivion right here and now - yadayadayadaa. These types of comments sound great while the market is continuing on a dying trend but once the floor falls out the same people never come back to rescind and admit they were wrong. And, just for the record - I have been pretty spot on with pointing out the traps - please check my track record - I'm not a blind bear by any measure.

    Not meaning to jump on you specifically - but wanted to point out that we had the same situation only nine months ago. And back in 2007 T.K. went through the same ordeal - everyone kept calling him an idiot and dreamer until suddenly the wind changed and turned into a shitstorm.
  • Marc45
    Yeah it's frustrating to keep saying I'm right, I'm right and no one seems to want to hear it. I hear you and I do believe the piper will come a calling...someday. Sadly, those who were right were the ones who bought in back in March and are still holding. I don't think anyone can argue with that.

    In the stock market, wrong is only wrong if you lose money.
  • Tronacate
    You have been spot on with alot of counts.......my bullheadedness has cost me alot of money......
  • The SPX is flat for several weeks now, so bulls AND bears are fighting.
    Also, I see Mole questioning his stance pretty much every sentence, so I'm going to disagree here.

    My opinion: the bears are finally getting this baby to turn, but they are too beaten-up to either believe or to get aggressive now (now that a decent opp is at hand).

    I don't say we dive tremendously. But we can decide that along the way.
    If I had to guess, I would guess it will just be a 10-20% slam and then strength into January or so. But I really don't care. Now that there is a clear benchmark for being short, I'm happy to take it given the recent neg. developments.

    If we do blow-off to the upside - yes, it will mean further ugly when we do turn lower - i agree with that; but I won't be short for the roman part of that candle.

    good luck no matter what - these are times to tell yer granchilrin about
  • centerline
    CD, if I remember correctly, this is also Bob's take on near term.

    I have been saying for months as well that this is a historic time at hand. Even if I don't play it right - at least I played it. I increased my risk based capital accordingly in early fall this year. My chips are on the table here. Not all in - but good deal in.
  • Not sure if I told you CD - but I'm heavily short and have remained so during the latest upswing. And that was KNOWING that an upswing of unknown magnitude was ahead of us - check my posts last week. So, it's really not that I personally am getting bullish or am questioning my analysis. I'm merely trying to not blindly lead everyone into one direction - some noobs here might easily get wiped out if there is a final swing up.
  • I know/
    And I think broadcasting confidence is a very bad idea in general.
    I just like to pick my spots and be really obnoxious about it, then stfu the rest of the time ;)
  • Guest
  • If you are going to play options, then yes - waiting is going to insure losing
    You'll be on the right side and possibly still lose money
  • Guest
  • kryxtal
    Try spreads instead, to neutralize time decay (or to get time decay on your side).
  • True - that's a tough sell though during a time when volatility is most likely at its lowest for years to come.
  • Just create the strategy that works for you; i can't say what it is.

    If it is with options, then you need to be a step ahead and you need to be very careful when premiums are high.
  • Er... use a stop?
  • Guest
  • Remember trader_steve saying he went to a psychologist years ago to help his trading - said it was one of the best things he ever did. It's all in your mind, after all.

    Reading as many books in this area as I can right now. TK recommended Trading in the Zone, which is really good on this.
  • Tronacate
    Didn't help his attitude.....lol
  • Boy - you are tough - T.K. is a great trader and most people here could learn a lot from him.
  • Tronacate
    That may be true....I wasn't referring to his trading .....I just feel like I have Rush Limbaugh sitting next to me when he's here........we just have some opposite views and that's ok.......
  • roncofooddehydrator
    My target for FAZ is 19.70 (30EMA on 1hr chart) before switching to FAS. I'll probably hedge initially in case we drop lower, but that's where I think we'll bounce and get our next and hopefully final ramp-up.
  • goldpackers
    Mole, totally agree with the diagonal count from 978. Been preaching that for a while just counted it over too soon at 1101 spx. Favor we are in B of V now that should bottom Monday in 1066 +/- 10 spx and followed by a final thrust in to 11-23/24 ish and 1125 to 1150 area


    thanks
  • goldpackers
    Now we can crash since the majority has succumbed to 1125
  • I don't want to see a ramp up to 1120 to 1150, because in this market buying begets more buying. The bears need to take their stand. But unfortunately this mild selloff today isn't cutting it. So I like the odds you place on us busting higher versus dropping lower.

    Also it's strange that the junk bond yield is staying mostly flat. Mortgage back securities have been climbing steadily during our latest rebound.
  • from one german to another - don't leave us here. Your efforts are definitely appreciated and dont use the comment count as an indication of how much we value your feedback. Many bears have given up and moved on to other things after being beaten in this crazy market here.

    The past 9 months have been incredible from a bullish perspective, forget about this being a bear market rally or not. The norm today is that you buy every dip and I do not see any catastrophic news event on the horizon that could change this mentality. Could we continue melting up? Lets be honest, I am not counting this out as a possibility - SPX 1200, 1300? Who knows, I am not a believer but I do not see anything that could shake the market to a point of collapse.

    And lets be honest, who would not be a buyer at tripple digit SPX levels (999). If I were short, I would hedge (buy), cover partially (buy), or trade for a swing trade (buy). The only thing this could turn lower if bulls keep on using more and more leverage and a sudden drop will take out a huge chunk of those leveraged paper profits. But we have had big sudden drops during our rally, drops that I considered the end of the rally many times over and over and here we are.

    Maybe I am being blind and tricked by this same mentality - "what is todays normal?" - well its buy the dips, anything that drops more then 60 spx point is an immense buying opportunity. Look back at 2003-2007 (yes we all hate that comparison, but lets be honest, back then we had problems too, and yet it took 4 years before that big horrific event occured - all it did was reset everything back to 2003.

    Sigh - I am a broken bear myself .... very broken.
  • "The only thing this could turn lower if bulls keep on using more and more leverage and a sudden drop will take out a huge chunk of those leveraged paper profits."

    Great point actually - and that will happen. Remember just yesterday the Dollar pushed up by about only 0.2% and it resulted in a huge down candle in equities. It takes more and more Dollar weakness to produce more highs in equities - a point that Karl 'No Slave To Fashion' Denninger made a few days ago. Inversely what will happen once the Dollar starts popping higher by 5% or 10%? The bulls are looking at a very cold winter - they can run but they can't hide from this. An equity rally based on currency devaluation and carry trade can only go on for so long.
  • gregn
    /DX is above that reversal area near 75.73 that you mentioned earlier.
  • Publius Federali
    Broken or broke;)
  • hah - both lol
  • You'd have to serve more than 1/4 pounders (gravity lack of)
  • I think you just uncovered a gaping hole in my business plan - damn it!!! ;-)
  • Huggybear
    Yea, they'd have to be 1.5 pounders on earth to be 1/4 pounders on the moon!
  • BlackSea
    A 40-50 handle climb would definitely discourage most bears (and it can easily come from short covering around 1100 after 2 days of consolidation). Probably the most likely scenario. Great post Mole. Prost!
  • A 40 point climb would take me out for sure.

    Until then you are all wimps!!
  • Thanks for all your efforts, Molester (lol - I just read what that *actually* says after using it for about the tenth time - snigger).

    Woulda been with you sooner, but I took most of 2009 off - a wise decision in retrospect. Now if only I'd gone long in March it would have been a perfect year, but hey, shouldn't be greedy.
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Alittle trivia....The busiest McDonalds in the world is in Darien,Ct off I 95
  • Guest
  • Rich ladies buying burgers for the dog?
  • Publius Federali
    You want fries with that?

    Thanks for the update.
  • yogi_barra
    We like you here Molecool and hope you kick that opportunity for collective good....lol
  • DesertEagle
    I have dibs on the drive-through
  • charles_smith
    Good one, Mole--nice summary of our situation. Gold closing under 1100 would add a bit of zest to the cliff-hanger.... maybe Orange plays out despite the odds.
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Your going to be flipping burgers?
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