gmak Pre-Market Warm Up

Up is down, old is new,  and the economic outlook is one of growth again – even after it was in doubt in the second half of last week. Who cares? No trader should. Play the market you are given, and remember that it is not driven by fundamentals.

This bare bones chart shows that TA says SPX is running out of steam. SPX still is seeing higher highs and higher lows, but MACD has crossed bearish, RSI is sloping down, volume has been declining (except on down days) and TD Pressure says price is headed down.

The dashed violet lines are all horizontal and based on resistance highs from the fall between October 2008 and March 2009.  Here is a clearer view:

Points of resistance and support are obvious. The 2nd derivative of SPX is declining.  The overall trend is still up, but it is looking tired.  Look at the purple circle where wave 2 or B are marked. Move forward to where the first dotted purple trend line begins (not dashed horizontal). See how there was a local high, 2 down days, and then another bump higher?  That is what I believe we will experience going forward, based on the sudden reversal of most trends from last week. This next chart has some FIBs, trend lines, and bollingers added.

What is telling is that SPX is back below the BIG WHITE trend line, suggesting an overthrow.  Liquidity is entering the financial system (USD down, GOLD up) and this may take SPX back up to the first dotted white line above to put in a new high.  The key is where SPX closes today, above ULTRAVIOLET (the solid purple trend line), or below Friday’s close. It is telling to me that SPX is BELOW the juncture of BIG WHITE and ULTRAVIOLET. The trend is changing.

Would I play today? No. The TA says down, but the USD says up. This contradiction or disconnect makes the risk /reward ratio too high, IMHO. I am NOT trying to catch the exact top. I am trying to play what the market is giving me. The general trend is still up, so it is easier to make money long than trying to swim against the current. However, the TA says that SPX should be headed down. At the same time, pre-market moves suggest we might be seeing AUG 14 timeframe again. See? Too much risk for the reward. If one goes long, then only if SPX gets below the mid-bollinger can one be sure that the bet is wrong. If one goes short, then only if the last high is exceeded can one be sure that the bet is wrong.  Both are too far away, IMHO, given the uncertainty of direction in the market.

Equity

Asia was mixed, but all the main markets (except Nikkei 225) were green. China was up almost a percent. Europe  is as green as Al Gore’s public persona. The DAX is up 1.6% and it looks like only one or two companies in Health Care are down. The rally is broad based and across the board – which suggests liquidity-driven to me, given the sentiment of last week.

The DAX did the old Ramp and Camp, and I would expect the same for SPX today.

ES did exactly the same think as soon as Europe opened. Ramp and Camp. Quite a reversal from the Fall and Crawl of last Thursday, no? ES pivots of note:

  • R2: 1101 – We are here right now, using it as a floor. All the TD SELL counts say it should fall – but we all know better given the USD and GOLD
  • R1: 1095.50 -  This was resistance on Friday before the NY open.
  • Neutral: 1089.50 – This was resistance before the Sunday open
  • S1: 1084 – was the launch pad for the latest move up from Friday at 8AM EST
  • S2:  1078 – I’d forgotten that numbers went this low.

This is Turkey week but I don’t think the fractal from past years will apply. Shorting here, IMHO, is a mugs game. I believe it is better to wait until there is agreement between the TA and the SPX as to direction, no?

FX

USD is down.  DXY was unable to hold above the 75.662 level, however a higher high has been put in. If DXY goes below 74.90, I would suggest that it will be setting new lows. If it holds above, then there is a chance that the up trend can continue.

Oddly enough, the EUR has put in a top just below the last high at 1.4990 (the last “higher high” was 1.4991) I’m clutching at straws a bit here, but the trend TA still says down until a higher high is put in.

NEWS

DATA

Stay loose. Don’t be too anxious to commit capital until the TA and price action line up.

Cheers.

1:40PM EST

Just updated Geronimo stats and Graphs

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  • Guest
    Great comments today

    TLH
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  • Been on the road all day and never had a chance to see this post Gmak. AWESOME stuff. Thanks for picking up the slack.

    Stellar +1

    Skal!
  • centerline
    speaking of road. on the way home tonight, at the very moment AC/DC "Hells Bells" started up, a big, black Cadillac pulled in front of me. Its license plate said "swan ###". Got me laughing.

    hasta manana.
  • Wow... that rings to me on two levels. Obviously, the whole black swan thing, but did you think about the Modest Mouse connection too? Love that song, and I firmly believe that you can find the answer to any of life's questions in the words of a Modest Mouse song.

    Skal!
  • Joe8888
  • ClutchShorter
    HP profits rise 14%, sales drop . Hmmm

    Profits = Revenues/Sales - Expenses

    How can Profits rise when sales are down? How about more cost cutting and layoffs? A recurring theme in the markets lately.
  • centerline
    Furthermore - delaying those expenses that can postponed (but not ignored forever). Same theme almost everywhere I know on a local, corporate level.
  • will be going on for as long as sheeple are quiet
  • amokta
    The Second coming of the Elliott Messiah, otherwise known as Bob prechter, just released an interim update - says we have reached 50% in 50% of the time (you get the drift) and that today represented an exhuastion rally. also 'non-conformations' continue to reproduce. He recommends going to 200% short positions on risk capital (i assume he means that figuratively, him not being a fan if inverse ETFs i suspect, more a futures/option man i think)
    why does he keep callig 'wolf' - its happening too often - well lets hoe this time its different!
    Gut Nacht !
  • fast996
    I like the time price factor he refers to;Gartley 222 placed the top on the 17th, fits close to the SPX.
    This large rising wedge should exhaust itself in the next day or two if not allready today. I thinks it depends if this final wave extends in a xa,xb,xc,xd, and xe. Looks like we did xa,xb, and are in xc presently.
    Tomorrows GDP and Schiller should prove volatile, but we are vey close to some kind of top here.
  • joeynickels
    Prechter uses futures and he has a longer time-frame than most. I don't know how much he has at risk, but he will not be shaken out of his position unless evidence in his opinion points to something other than what he has based his bet on. He advises that he may not be correct and that following his recommendation would cost you the entire amount of your bet if the market were to move up 50% from here. I am not saying that his assessment is spot on and I am not inclined to bet the farm right here, but it is only a recommendation by someone who puts some extensive analysis and thought into this game. It is just one opinion among many about how to place a bet and hopefully make some coin at a tricky spot in a market where the uptrend might soon end.
  • Yes, and since he is likely averaged in around 1300 or above on /ES, I doubt he is too worried right here....

    Skal!
  • CorporalCarrot
    Can I do a WOW, but I just heard NYSE didn't even print 1bn shares. Thats REALLY light volume, and shows that on these holiday weeks they can really move things whatever way they want.
  • centerline
    Nice pump and distribute today. Dip buyers coming back in at end I suppose. Maybe some weak-hand or hedge short covering at the end. Nothing significant though. Fractal still in play by timing and price though. I expect tomorrow to be flat or down slightly. Nothing earth shattering.
  • gsavli
    cnbc page says 2.7. But nevertheless, low volume, very low...
  • bubble jeopardy
    If my wife's garage sale last weekend is any indication, people are going to be extremely tight with their federal reserve notes. One lady spent over 1/2 hour in excruciating agony deciding whether or not to part with $2 for salt and pepper shakers.
  • gregn
    You should have explained the sinking value of the dollar..
  • $2 seems awfully high.....

    ;->
  • gregn
    Disqus issues for anyone else?
  • texpresso
    several different weird things, reloading a lot
  • gregn
    Its looks text based to me.
  • Comments not updating - workaround by using browser refresh. ES only site this problem is occuring for me.
  • CorporalCarrot
    Folks

    I posted last week how the Dow was fooling everyone into thinking this was a runaway train where the SPX which we all know is all that matters in the end, looks to be putting in a rounded top, and is clearly exhibiting waning momentum

    I haven't bothered extending the top here, but you get the picture.

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p37803072571&a=179988331

    Now nothing would surprise me at this point given the last 9 months, but this is the bears greatest hope IMO.
  • Scoops
    Pretty much the action I expected today. I got taken out of some individual issues, and added bear spreads on SPY this morning.
  • de3600
    Rimm and Fslr behaving nicely thru this bs
  • ClutchShorter
    RIMM and FSLR traders/investors are realistic. They've seen earnings decline and they aren't about to jump in the boat like AAPL, AMZN, BIDU, PCLN, and GOOG monkeys.
  • de3600
    and if it keeps up the dollar will be rubber dog shit
  • ClutchShorter
    Sell off tomorrow or more BS crap?
  • ClutchShorter
    "...Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash."

    Exactly what is going on right now. Government is printing so much debt it can't pay back.
  • ClutchShorter
    Prechter's reputation will be severely damaged after missing on these P3 calls. =)
  • JoeBear
    Prechter out with an interim update recommending that traders go to fully leveraged, 200% short position.
  • oowwwhhhaaaaa??? Am I missing something?
  • rocky
    lol
  • Apple Al
    He's been putting out notices like that since 1987. He may be right, but, as they say, a broken clock is right twice a day.
  • PRSGuitars
    It sounds so much like a joke, but... but... I just can't put anything past Prechter at this point.
  • de3600
    agreed
  • WTFed
    If he turns out to be right I want all of you to come back here at the end of the week and say you're sowwy. You really don't see him come out very often with calls like that though. Pretty crazy. Exhaustion gap? Well see.......
  • kryxtal
    Given the anemic volume on this move today, it does feel like an exhaustion gap.
  • LogansRun
    You're joking right?!
  • texpresso
    cycle from nov2 remains intact, a little pumpndump like today or Sept 28/Oct 22 in the middle is common; still looking for 1020-30 this week or next
  • shortcover
    nice turn on TZA today down there...i have some of that one and have written some dec 16 and jan 20s calls against it that i'll need to roll out a bit...
  • texpresso
    out of TZA 11.70, 1.5% good enuf
  • elliott_surfs
    crazy conehead H&S forming on ES? Yes? No? oh ok...
  • After listening to Gerald Celente, I'm thinking Marc Faber should change the name of his letter to"I'm an unbridled optimist"

    http://www.shtfplan.com/forecasting/gerald-celente-predicts-us-dollar-currency-crisis-in-2010_11232009

    "...the greatest depression the workd has ever seen....."
  • fast996
    No Doubt there was some heavy starch left in the shorts this morning. let's see how good Viagra works on the Dow.
  • bubble jeopardy
    I can remember the endless drivel a year ago about those evil shorts (exclusive of gs which, of course, is always doing god's work). The silence from that crowd is deafening now.
  • de3600
    ya lol and cramer screaming about SKF andd SRS everynight
  • ds2
    Bailout Ben iPhone App!

    http://bit.ly/7dUzvU
  • standard_and_poor
    Like my old friend says : "today has been pure fuckery" so far.
    Very deceiving buying so far. I suspect general trend will be down for today and morrow - just a stupid guess.
  • Can anyone tell me why the AUDUSD forex pair is trading as a proxy to the S&P. What is the connection?
    By the way the close correlation of the AUD and NZD broke over the past couple of trading days.
    AUDUSD Divergence in the MACD Daily since October mid October.over which time it has hit two aneamic new highs.
    Has been a five wave move down since the November 16 high. Today has it hit 2 of 2 circle or 2 of (2) down. Todays close should tell us.
    Which of these is leading?
  • Me_XMan
    I thing they're getting ready for that SPX 1120.
  • Schwerepunkt
    I'm ready, been flat since getting stopped out and taking a small loss in ES this morning.
  • PRSGuitars
    Curious, what is schwerepunkt?
  • Schwerepunkt
    A misspelling of the German word meaning "heavy point" but usually translated as "center of gravity." It is a military term from Napoleonic and Clausewitzian military theory. Destroy the enemy's center of gravity and you destroy his capacity to fight.

    Edit: proper spelling is schwerpunkt, but it was already taken.
  • I don't suppose Clausewitzian has anything to do with Black Friday or Christmas in general, eh?
  • PRSGuitars
    That's awesome. I was expecting like, the name taken by late 70s German punkrockers (like Hippies for 60s counterculture in the US).

    All I recall from European history is 'anschluss', 'schlieffen plan', and 'gewerkschaftsbund'. Beyond that, I am a Berliner (the donut; not 'a person of Berlin').
  • PRSGuitars
    Good afternoon, all -- a few things to chew on, thoughts are welcome.

    VIX declined this morning in the face of a selloff. No fun. Looked to me like this was just a pullback, too, but now -- what gives? I'm quite confused...

    I highly recommend we consider the 2nd half of this video from optionmonster/jamie tyrell for group1 trading.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRJhB_CZ2Jg&feature=sub

    Mentions a large customer in a spread that loses between VIX 45-70 but cashes in above 75. Suppose this represents someone thinking that if the market is due to drop at all -- into Dec 09 -- there needs to be HEAVY VIX protection if the market corrects at all. GRANTED -- disclaimer -- they are selling this in a near neutral spread such that they don't pay anything below VIX 45 or so, and as such, really represents CRASH protection (not even really correction protection so much)

    We're also approaching the 133 of 133 that slowed the market last week and might offer resistance in the near term (turning us higher again) -- http://screencast.com/t/NjlmYjVhNT.
  • PRSGuitars
    Something like this for the VIX spread: http://screencast.com/t/OWFkNjU2
  • centerline
    ok. some fun with numbers just for shits and giggles.

    On SPX, we are possibly in the 3rd of 3 fractals. So far, each has had three "peaks". If we number the peaks 1,2, 3 and we put the tops in order of smallest to largest (price) for each fractal, the first fractal was 2, 1, 3. The second fractal was 3, 2, 1. The current fractal (based on closes) is shaping up to be a 1, 3, 2.

    Each sequence is unique with no prior "top" in the same number position. Interesting.

    As you can tell, I am working very hard to avoid my actual work.
  • centerline
    oops, second fractal was 3, 1, 2. Oh well. I guess I better get back to real work.
  • ClutchShorter
    POT went as high as $117 today, now it's $113.99.
  • at the rate they are smoking it ... ;-)
  • gsavli
    lol!
  • gsavli
    Is today some patriotic holiday in the US,that they had to pump it that high?
  • marcopolo101520
  • bubble jeopardy
    CBS MW reports that the hedge fund business is loading up on gold. When I bought physical in 2000 the msm couldn't dream it would dominate their publications today. The topping process in metals and bottoming in the dollar is going according to plan.
  • nice call on 2000 gold, take profits if it goes to 1400 and reload close to 1k
  • bubble jeopardy
    I'm more inclined to sell physical silver in this metals euphoria bought around $5 as it has underperformed gold. Gold will decline but not as much as silver because of the fear factor.
  • sorry, didn't know you had kept both in physical

    better have a good safe, banks won't be a safe bet
  • bubble jeopardy
    SSH - "banks won't be a safe bet"
    banks AREN'T a safe bet!
  • talking of safedeposit boxes on banks that won't go down
  • ClutchShorter
    Anyone's 401k and Roth in short positions. Not me. At least I have something positive to look at.
  • marcopolo101520
  • marcopolo101520
    WE ARE SPARTA!
  • Me_XMan
    Who can break TA? Goverment I would say.
    So I would assume market will keep going up until something breaks.
  • bergs
    Agree with your frustration SS Hampster; but what the heck lets keep counting.

    Working on subminuette wave three(red)

    http://screencast.com/t/MDk3YWVhNjE

    Bigger picture.

    http://screencast.com/t/ZmEwODBkOWY
  • I did, 4 days ago

    I think EWTers from PPT are reviewing their options. When they got caught with 1096 breaking it's a new game, their best scenario is now playing an expanding flat for 4 and extending 5, so either hold at 1086 or 1075 and bust the sucker up from there
  • as it's groundhog day I thought of repeating a post from 6 days ago

    these last rises are as biohazardous as they come, this is PPT wave theory, not normal EWT

    count the gaps, try counting waves from the start and see where they should have ended... it's plain f"$"#$ing nightmare

    The problem is simple, nobody's playing the stockmarket anymore, ETF's, futures (and specialy options) are like early 20th century bucketshops, the money is being BET on market moves and margins are being swept constantly.

    I don't quit because I see a structural weakness that must be met, but I worry if somehow they figured out how to postpone it enough not to matter
  • centerline
    "if somehow they figured out how to postpone it enough not to matter"

    words of wisdom and caution here. well said. it's all about buying time.
  • but it doesn't make sense!

    we're now fractaling down to brake the fall, soon it will be too short to count
  • amokta
    lets hope the dow repeats groundhog 26th october - reasonable pullback so far
  • shortcover
    wrote some SDS Mar 52s calls...i think i will roll out SRS calls next...have some dec 14 and jan 15's that are worthless...
  • amokta
    i wunder what hochberg will have to say in this eves ewi STUpdate - what happended to the synodic moon cycle - its graviational influence seems not the have penetrated to Wall Street
  • SpeedSkt1
    all put/call ratios running very low intraday.......not many people buying puts........
  • elliott_surfs
    Will SRS get any love from the mortgage resets coming? It looks so cheap...
  • gregn
    Here is that sell that I was expecting, hope it plays out: http://screencast.com/t/MDkyNjIyODk
  • this month... 6th gap up, almost 80% of price rise

    need I say more? It's manipulated distribution to extreme

    selling pressure is exhausted BEFORE any sifnificant low

    in the meanwhile I lose money on shorts and on usd devaluation

    meanwhile gold rises to 1170 so real spx continues grinding down very close to the 38 line...

  • marcopolo101520
    SSH,

    No more Desitin on the market, no more lubricants, no more melt up, I know, we all cry for the same but remember the evilmole. When you turn around and join the (bullybubbly)cause and swear to never embrace the uglyuBEAR that's when they switch the hole. Play small, play safe or be patient, the Go(l)d's boys will need to make money on their netshort positions. An you willhave your grim smile up to the ears like many out there. WE ARE SPARTA! HOLD THE LINE!
  • stil holding my shorts and more zen than a budah on thorazine

    no crying here, just geting bored
  • Joe8888
  • TimV
    Vix is getting awfully close to the bottom BB band... If we get a Vix sell signal... what rules do you use to close the position?
  • TimV
    I just realized I had my BB set to SMA... so we arent actually that close to a sell signal... but Id still be curious about exit rules with this strategy, if anyone wants to share.
  • roscoe_casita
    it would be to open a position if we get a confirmed vix sell signal.

    i.e. Vix Sell signal = open a short position
  • TimV
    Yeah... what I meant was... after the short position is open... how long do you keep it? Personal judgment?, or are there rules to cover the short, based on the Vix.
  • roscoe_casita
    No idea!
  • gregn
    Found support on well.. support of Thursday's triangle: http://screencast.com/t/ODZkMjBhNz
  • thunda72
    Came back from Lima, Peru last week, where I go at least yearly to visit extended family. construction is booming, new cars clog the streets, and banking lending is expected to double in the next couple years. Mining companies (like Southern Copper, Barrick, Freeport-McMoran, Grupo Mexico, etc.) are looking to invest more next year, and peruvian companies are doing fairly well considering the world financial climate.
    New Peru ETF, EPU might be an interesting medium to long term play. GL
  • standard_and_poor
    Thanks, I'll add to watch list. I still have JBSS, NFLX, TZA, and BGZ.'
  • centerline
    Oh, by the way, during the top of the housing market, there were disgusting TV shows out there like "Flip This House" and "Property Ladder". Sure signs of a top. Does anyone else notice the increasing volume of Scottrade and TD Ameritrade and other broker commercials out there now?

    Retail is climbing in. May already be a good deal in. When the money is this easy, the party is f***ing over. It is usually, 99.9% of the time, that simple. The only caveat here is that we are in an asset inflation bubble, and bubbles can grow bigger than anyone really thinks is possible. But when they pop, they pop more violently.
  • CandleStickEmUpper
    yes I did notice commercials for opening up investing accounts coming on randomly recently, that were never seen before.
  • gregn
    Based on last fractal, I expect to drip lower as we have been doing and get a nice big sell off: http://screencast.com/t/ZGVmZWNmMWE
  • Rush23
    Very interesting comparison. Thank you.

    Also, the discussion that I found here was a little different take on the market movements lately. It points to extreme degree of instability. Inasmuch as you can compare the market to physical systems, it certainly makes sense and would support your view.

    http://marketthoughtsandanalysis.blogspot.com/
  • I expect the MMs to keep the markets inflated throughout this week, and then let it correct next week, after the biggest shopping day of the year on Friday. I believe this is exactly what they did last year.
  • gregn
    You are probably right, some money stopped that sell. A gap down bar like that typically keeps on going down. The price is frozen in place.
  • ClutchShorter
    Risk is to the upside!! Anyone believes me?
  • tradejane
    I believe you! Until I get stopped out, that is. ;)
  • Nightwind
    You could "paper trade" this market and lose money.
  • Guest
    testing the european closing levels now, in my experience, if they don;t break within an hour of the close they tend not to
  • amokta
    what happened to the 'island reversal' from last week ?
  • Me_XMan
    Turned into HELL!
  • amokta
    just shows you that anything is possible - cant place too much reliance on 'indicators' and TA in themselves
  • centerline
    Maybe it is a "two-island" reversal. LOL.
  • texpresso
    WFT is closing west texas fracturing unit, i don't think the news is out yet, consider shorting WFT/ buying BJS
  • centerline
    Busy as hell today, so not much time to do anything.

    Just stopping by to say that timing for VIX low is about right on. So is the timing for this pop up in equities. The only thing bothering me is that we overshot what I thought would be the high for today. Nonetheless, fractal play is still intact - and would still be intact, IMO, if we made a new high today or tomorrow. If this continues to play out, we turn somewhere between tomorrow and Friday... Monday at the latest. 60 SPX point correction at least. Long risk here greater than short for medium-term / long-term trades... and options are cheap right now - good time as any IMO to pick your poision for med/long-term.
  • Me_XMan
    I thought risks for longs were at SPX 1000. Now it's 1100 and climbing higher. Wow! day.
  • centerline
    I agreed at SPX 1000 as well for anything more than a day-trade. On this "right shoulder" side where we are now - anything is game on price it seems, but timing seems to be more "consistent" a measure based on past fractals. We should know here soon. If timing fails to hold, we could be starting something entirely new. Aside from the fractal - which is where I am looking - there are also so many short and long term TLs coming into play here that risks in general on the long side remain high, IMO, until we break out - and retest and hold. If don't do that, short is play instead of long. I also think that all of these high risks are why Mole and so many others are either on the sidelines or in neutral/balanced positions.
  • Me_XMan
    So plenty on CASH ON SIDELINES waiting to jump in. IC.
  • centerline
    For sure. Aside from distribution, it might help explain why on down days we see serious spikes in volume versus up days.
  • amokta
    1600s - some people thought the earth was flat
    2000s - some people thought that P3 was coming
    (just a joke - hey i have some shorts too, so reflection on myself too!)
  • ClutchShorter
    Can't possibly go wrong with SRS at these prices. Housing is not going to get better.
  • nugent
    gmak, really appreciate these pre market warm ups, great wealth of info.
  • standard_and_poor
    Hedged longs are slightly green this morning, I'm selling off some longs and adding TZA (short etf). Open was stronger than expected.

    Not committing more than 20% of account.
  • texpresso
    sold off all my daily longs a little earlier, nice day. no shorting until vol dies across the board since europe closed up 2.5%
  • standard_and_poor
    Let us pray!
  • texpresso
    added tza
  • bubble jeopardy
    TZA looks to be forming a rs of a h & s reversal.
  • gregn
    You never were much for commitment.
  • standard_and_poor
    I am manwhore.
  • Last week was a rough week for my trades. My DRV trade got stopped out, and the SPY calls that I used as a hedge promptly cratered for the next two days (my trading plan said to keep adding to the position, buying cheaper calls). I just sold my calls for a nice gain, making up for the DRV trade and then some! Stick to your plan!

    I still have one AAPL Dec 200 call. This time of year, AAPL tends to ramp up and up and up.
  • roncofooddehydrator
  • roncofooddehydrator
  • rangefinder
    RFD - Excellent post. Given the article it's fairly easy to understand the bubble in gold. 1366 before Xmas. 2300 before June of next year.
  • speaking of "Pee3"

    A little boy rushes into the living room and runs into his mother's arms.

    "Oh, mama," he says, "a great big brown bear chased me all the way home from school."

    "Now, dear, I've told you before not to tell tall stories like that," his mother says.

    "But it isn't a story!" the boy insists. "If you don't believe it, you can look for yourself. The bear is still just outside the door. I was scared to death. I thought it would eat me before I got in!"

    His mother goes to the window and looks, then turns to the boy. "You go into your bedroom and kneel down and ask God to forgive you for that story. That's a dog sitting out there."

    The boy does as he's told, but a few minutes later he comes out of the bedroom smiling.

    "Did you ask God to forgive you?" his mother asks.

    "Yes, I did, mama. And you know what? God said, 'Never you mind about that. It thought that dog was a bear myself until I got another good look at it.'"
  • Guest
    Just to flag what I said earlier, I took my delta small short at 1107 on ESZ9. Not looking too clever right now but I would add to that at 1115 if it gets there.
  • tradejane
    I think you should be in the green soon.
  • vision_invisible
    Guys, based on Gold's explosive moves it is in a temporary bubble, and I think Fiat is looking very cheap from a long term perspective.
    Hehehe.
  • bubble jeopardy
    I picture this topping process as a fisherman stuffing more and more bullish fish into his net.
  • ClutchShorter
    Please list your short positions and how much you're under

    DEC SPY $104 Puts : -65%
    Jan SPY $104 Puts: -50%
    Mar SPY $100 Puts: -20%
  • thunda72
    Mar QQQQ $24 Puts: -70%
    Dec GE $12 Puts: -40%
  • vision_invisible
    why short the companies we are debasing the dollar and engaging in debtor war to support?
    they are a matter of national security effectively
  • newbear
    Mar SPY $90 Puts: -40 %
    DEC BAC $15 Puts: -70%
    FAZ - 15%

    And my junk stocks are up big easing the pain of my shorts- tells you the overall bullishness of the market.
  • tradejane
    DAX shorts: −1,23 %

    Dow Jones STOXX® 600 Banks Index shorts: −0,83 %
  • Schwerepunkt
    Bob: are you still holding onto your Dec 1050 puts? Anything changed with your view based on this push above 1110?
  • Guest
    Still got them - though they are down 45% today. This move higher is clearly at the outer limit of what I thought was possible though I always thought up markets were more likely - hence puts, not short futures. But do I think there is still a chance of a big move lower - yes. The things I look at to identify potential stress in sovereign debt markets are still not heading in the right way for bulls. So I will hold on to them for now. Might have to make a decision to roll them further up or out at some stage but not just yet.
  • Interesting Fibonacci relationship I just noticed - between 87 and and March 09 - says to me that you may want to keep an eye on the other fib multiples on the way down

    http://screencast.com/t/YmVhZTM0N
  • gregn
    I stick to my call last week that we would top this rally between 21st and 23rd based on last 2 fractals. I called 1120ish though. Cannot wait until correction.
  • why would u include weekend :)
  • gregn
    It is against corporate policy to deny days based on their weekly orientation.
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