Very Last Bear Standing

Back in September I put up a lengthy post hypothesizing on two scenarios – Soylent Blue and Soylent Green. The latter was putting us into Primary {3} – the former (which we got) suggested that we would push into 1085 on the SPX. Okay, I have been 15 handles short but any of you who now have relegated Elliott Wave Theory to the dust bin of charting magic should go back and read that post again. Not that we can’t revisit these highs again, but if we do I am quite confident that a large drop would ensue shortly after.

Another reason to read that old post is that it offers a fairly good intro into Chris Carolan’s work on what he terms the ‘Spiral Calendar‘. It’s one of the more exotic perspectives of looking at charts that I allow myself – for the pure and simple reason that it’s eerily accurate. Carolan’s book is out of print but you can still snatch up used copies if you look around. The Spiral Calendar is a set of time units where the numbers of moons are measured in square roots of Fibonacci numbers. One moon cycle is 29.5 days, the time unit of the human reproductive cycle. The table shown below shows F1 through F35 – I usually do not measure beyond F16.

From the book:

The Spiral Calendar is a system of measuring time quite differently from conventional clocks and calendars. Most numerical systems, having defined a base unit, proceed in arithmetic increments of that unit. The Spiral Calendar moves in logarithmic increments. The second number of the sequence is not twice the first and the third is not three times the first, as in arithmetic progression. The human mind naturally prefers arithmetic methods of counting. The conventional analytic approach of time cycles (regularly repeating intervals) reflects this fact. However, it is the logarithmic function that has long been understood as the growth function, intimately connected with the life process. To apply this idea to the dimension of time reveals the patterns of life produced by the logarithmic building blocks of the Spiral Calendar.

What all that boils down to is this handy table of Fibonacci based time cycles:

You can skip all the columns except for ‘n’ and ‘days’. F3 for instance is the third time cycle and equals 42 days (rounded). F8 is the eight obviously with 135 days. Now, this is where it gets tricky and a bit subjective – the exercise at hand is to connect major tops and bottoms in order to determine if they somehow correlate via those time cycles. I personally allow 3-4 days max for any time cycle below F9 – after that I’m a bit more generous as the cycles get pretty large.

Okay, now that I have the noobs on the same page let’s take a peek at my current chart:

You might want to click on this one as it’s quite large and detailed. What I’d like to point out this time around are two significant long term time cycles which both line up with today or tomorrow. The first one is an F11 on the bottom which spans from the very bottom of Primary {2} to pretty much now. The second one is an F14 which stretches all the way back to the beginning of Intermediate (2) of Primary {1}.

So, what does all that mean? Well, we can’t be 100% sure of course as these long term time cycles can be off by a week or so, but looking at the entire ‘picture’ if you will and considering that we have two time cycles coincide so nicely chances are that Primary {2} has either concluded last week or is very close to doing so. Yes, I’m choosing my words very cautiously as I know how easily things can drag out in long term overbought conditions like that – and in particular as I’m writing this in the second week of December. But if I was long the market right now (which I’m not – only a few select symbols) I would be very nervous looking at the chart above. Especially in light of the fact that the majority of the past cycles I drew either produced a drop or a rally shortly thereafter. Even in my last post on the subject in September I suggested that a drop was looming ahead around September 16th (I was hoping Primary {3} but was wrong on that) – and we dropped hard on September 23 after having gone more or less sideways after the 16th. So, that would have been a nice entry – and I hope this time I’ll be lucky again.

This is the chart that leads me to choose my words very cautiously. I have posted this one several times before as I was expecting a massive drop in equities when we poked through the 75% mark on my trusted weekly stochastic. However, what we got instead was an overbought ‘embedded’ condition – very similar to what we saw back in 2006.

However, I must add that bearish investor sentiment is quite a bit lower this time around and has not been this this low since … well, I had to go way back:

That’s right – June 2003 – and what immediately stands out is that the market happily kept pushing higher. So, why not this time around?

My weekly stochastic just started to be overbought then – and also kept swirling slightly below the 75% line. T’was a different time then however as we just started our b cycle wave which would eventually get us to the market’s price extreme at 14,198. Is this where we are going right now? The bulls happen to think so – I personally believe that on a long term basis we are about to roll over a cliff.

More short/medium term this chart is making me very nervous – if we hit 0.65 on the 10-day MA of the CPCE plus if we push outside the 2.0 BB on Mr. VIX I would strongly recommend you close out your index puts and call it a year.

And finally – another caveat for the bears, the BAA-TYX spread chart I’ve put together. I’m sorry to report that the spread remains glued to the 2% mark and has now even dipped below it. So, no matter what they tell you out there – risk is still very much en vogue. Perhaps a rapid rise in the Dollar will lead to a swing up but remember – what we are looking for is for this spread to precede a turn in equities. Thus far it’s not budging and that’s not a good sign for the bears. When it does I’m getting excited and all long term bearish again – but until then I’ll play the swings.

So in summary – we have a set of conflicting indicators – some suggesting a large drop is ahead, others indicating that the bulls will retain their stronghold on equities. Of course this is holiday season tape and thus I allow for distortions and fake signals. On the currency side the Dollar is holding on thus far but we have been fooled early November and if this time is supposed to be for real ole’ bucky needs better start dusting off its pair of Nikes. As a whole the odds are a bit iffy right now and I doubt that anything major is going to transpire until after the holidays.

Cheers,

Mole

This entry was posted on Wednesday, December 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm and is filed under Elliott Wave Theory, Market Outlook, Spiral Calendar. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  • tradejane
    I might not say it very often but I'm grateful for your posts Mole. Your insight has really helped me in my trading.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Euro liking the worse than expected jobless claims number.
  • bearmaid
    Terrific analysis Mole, very helpful and in accordance with what I see. I have learned much about charts and the art of chart analysis by reading your posts (for instance that F1-F11 is not the upper row on my keyboard :)) Thank you very much.
  • gmak
    Hamsters have broken watches. I live inside a broken clock. Lots of flags forming everywhere - but the disconnect between USD and ES should be cause for pause.

    http://evilspeculator.com/?p=13449#disqus_thread

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  • Sovereign CDS ruh-roh - look at how much these fkrs went up in one day

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/sovereign-cds-update-bloodbath
  • sloth_bear
    I just recieved my copy of elliot wave principle!
    I hope my brain will not melt :-)
  • it won't take a look at the summary I posted
  • AS2009
    SSH - where can I find this summary ?
  • right here http://www.scribd.com/doc/23363645/Elliott-wave-rules-and-guidelines

    but it was in my comments not even 10 comments deep ;-)
  • Ok, here's what I'm looking at right now.

    GBPUSD channels - http://screencast.com/t/N2IxZDk5M
    EURUSD channels - http://screencast.com/t/YTlmNjI4

    And some more bonus EURUSD long-term fun - http://www.screencast.com/users/ultrabear/folders/Jing/media/6a3a4079-6afa-430e-ae6a-74d947a193df
  • Schwerepunkt
    is that a bear flag on Euro since 0715?
  • Since halfway [day before] yesterday, arguably.
  • EUR:USD hummm 3 of 3 down or 3 of 3 up....

    NASTY
  • well, just a small comment, gold is parked at a very interesting zone, 50 usd up or down are LIKELY (might take more than a day, but the signal should be solid)
  • time for the feared hamster noon cry...

    erhh... ahh...

    GMAK! CLOCK TIME!

    (and thanks in advance)
  • as ES is a bit dead I'm reposting a repost that fell on the last minutes of the previous thread (it pertains to a post 3 weeks ago)

    did a crazy hamster talk about s&p 1070 sunday or something? and about gold 1100-1150?

    now for the bad news... I hate prescience... this scenario is still in order? I say none of the conditions were met... DO COMMENT

    ORIGINAL POST

    3 weeks ago
    Getting late and the market is tired…as in the dates I mentionedin the other post there will be an attempt to gap up an invalidate the h&s and reset the count.

    if it fails (and nasdaq is our last stand) then this was a megaphone top

    if it succeeds this suckers's hiting 1150 in no time and head for 1200-1300 range after indulging a small drop to 1070

    that's my view

    vix must reach 36
    bpspx must break 70
    spx:gold must break 0.91

    otherwise it's usd to shitland, vix below 19 and bpspx hoovering above 90 and s&p deciding if it wants 1200, 1300 or 1500... at least for a quarter

    NEW COMMENT

    though i'm still waiting for a 0,87 on spx:gold it might fall short and do just the dreaded 0.91. we don't have the H&S nor any of the other lines in the sand

    we didn't reach the 1150 before the plunge to 1070 but it was not mandatory, we can have a 5th wave to infinity and beyond.

    In fact it might start if we break 1.0, gold seems to be parking, guarding us against that, but ....
  • sloth_bear
    Hi hamster, I don't have much to say to comment, sorry...
    From my tiny uneducated view, the BB are really narrow, we are oversold and stuck in a range, the market looks definitely tired, and bad sovereign news are coming around, so I expect one last bounce to the upper BB (20 2 daily) with a possible overthrow, then the whole thing blow up and we will have at least a big retracement (I don't have target yet) or the infamous P3 will show its dark shadow.
    Thanks anyway for your contributions, it helps me a lot to improve myself
  • we're here to help, questions, fire away, if i can I'll answer or sugest someone else
  • Morning. You're right that it's quiet. Too quiet.

    Real indices are at interesting points IMO.

    SPX is currently grinding its face against the 200 MA glass ceiling - http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX:$GOLD&p=D...

    NDX regained the 200 but coming up fast on the 50 - http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$NDX:$GOLD&p=D...

    /edit - and of course we are awfully close to a 200/50 crossover ruh-roh on both
  • BTW do you see the PPT GAP UPs? some are obvious, some you have to zoom in

    they are all around, on important EWT counts, on FIB ratios, on MAs... it's a work of sheer brute force that has to be reckoned, lately they seem to be working overtime on nasdaq (i wonder if i should be paranoid and remember all my "watch nasdaq" comments)

    this is not mass -market, wonder how long they think they can bounce this cat rag
  • wonder how long they think they can bounce this cat rag

    mmm.... forever?
  • that, I can assure you, they cant

    EDIT. NOT ON SPX:GOLD
  • As evidenced by the chart from 2000 onwards for Dow/Gold and/or SPX/Gold.

    Which is why I rather listen to Prechter when he says it's now time for nominals to re-acquaint themselves with the real world.
  • that's why I think pretcher is much better than most people think... I read him on real as well
  • yes, and one of the MOST EFFICIENT TAs is.... Moving averages (tests showed MA to be the sole classic TA that consistently brought good results) we had MA breaches IF MA50 breaches MA200 it's armagedon

    so close and so far away... we need a couple of days of down movement for bear confirmation, it it bounces it's bulish, no doubt
  • I must be really fkd in the head but I'm actually sat here smirking at the thought of Armageddon ;-)
  • hey, don't get excited, it's a low budget armagedon,just a 5th wave of P3 (I know, mole thinks otherwise) to a spx:gold at .64

    EDIT for this to be full scale armagedon they have to drive this fucker to 1300 and force the need of a full scale P3
  • tradejane
    Who's afraid of the big bad bull? Not the German traders, who immediately sold off the DAX (and the banks) the moment it rallied up to today's pivot of 5655.

    That said, we are in short term oversold territory so an attempt to rally to 5704 or 5761 would not be too surprising. The problem is the banks

    http://www.screencast.com/t/ZmY4OWFlNTk

    (and persisting mentions of a credit crunch by German business owners)

    http://tinyurl.com/yef39xo

    who are acting like lead on the rest of equities.
  • TWD
    Let's sell off. I'm liking your SOLR play and decided to contribute a chart. Hope to get another entry before it takes off further. Nice MA cross and fib intersection of the 23.6 fib line and 78.6 fan line. I can't believe I'm still up. Day job stars in 5 hours. ugh.
    http://www.screencast.com/t/ZDMyMmI1O
  • PRSGuitars
    Nice find! go to bed while you still can. Just my 2c (from someone who doesnt sleep...)
  • TWD
    Barely made it to work this morning. Coffee only goes so far. Lol. Need to learn to trade currencies or something. Major moves happen during my prime time.
  • tradejane
    Good job on that chart. I'm glad you liked SOLR. Some more obscure plays of mine are RMIX and CSCX - will post some thoughts about that later on. I also have a target of 35.50 on SO. Now get some sleep. I don't know how you nightowls do it.

    Edit to add: Chart of SO

    http://www.screencast.com/t/YzkyNjIwY
  • TWD
    I wish I can be more of a lark, but the night is more fun. I need to just trade futures in the evening or currencies.
  • tradejane
    Being a night person has some disadvantages but a lot of advantages too.

    About RMIX - I like that one as long as it holds .90 with a target of $1.50, and CSCX "should" be ok as long as it holds the $2 mark with a target of $3. Another one I like is NCR as long as it stays above 9.17 with a target of 12.20

    Disclaimer: Those are just lottery plays mentioned purely for entertainment purposes. I always enjoy hearing about other stocks so feel free to share.

    Good luck to you today. :)
  • TWD
    Your disclaimer is very funny. Thanks for some of those ideas. CSCX is my favorite of the three and I'll keep all of them on the radar. QTWW hot alternative play. Chart is nice long coiling. Very boring to watch just add some and it'll pop hard with news. I'll be on the lookout for some more ideas to share since we both enjoy the lottery. :) GL to you too.
  • Offtimer
    I am going to fix this broken clock overnite and see what happens tomorrow.
  • tradejane
    Oh good. Here are a few more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZbtAFq7dP8
  • momac
    Excellent post Mole.
    I am so sick of this market. But I'm afraid to not keep track of it, because as soon as I did, the bottom would drop out and I would miss it all. And after all the money I've lost this year, I really hope I can ride the short side at least part of the way down. It'll be very hard to be short and hold though with all that's gone on this year.
  • Guest
    What strategies were you using to lose money this year?
  • momac
    Exactly, being a bear. Although if I would of just bought sds or the like with half my account balance and let it ride since May, I probably wouldn't have lost as much when you figure in all the trading costs.
  • Being a bear? LOL :-)

    Sorry - I know it's not funny.
  • hi boss, nice seeing you here so early ;-)

    almost touched the upper 13,2.618 and breached the upper 13,1.618 BBs

    it's bear time if we have what it takes
  • marcopolo101520
    hoping to enjoy EDZ ride from the back of my caddy tomorrow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-NiJ9K4QKM&feat...
  • The_Grim_Reaper
    After growing tired of re-drawing my channel and trendlines, and witnessing failed TA signal after failed TA signal (H&S anyone?), I started focusing on oscillators and other "internals" oriented signals to time my trades. Doesn't mean I'm any good at trading, but certainly it helps with discipline and that age old principle of buying low, selling high. In any case, I've got a handful of indicators I use now and one proprietary model I've built myself (gee, overkill) but unfortunately my model is useless in a range bound market because it assumes a wider trend.

    Here's another signal I'm watching now to see how well it works: 5 day ISEE moving average.

    Buy < ~110
    Sell > ~138

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HI9vMxcgcpQ/SyB1905rB...
  • Diablos
    Does anyone give this a chance in hell?

    http://screencast.com/t/MTE5YzdmMzAt
  • I wonder if my timing is off lately - my posts don't seem to get a lot of comments compared with gmak's. Unfortunately I simply can't do very early posts as of late - my schedule is pushing too late into the day. Which is a pity as everyone seems to be gone after the bell.
  • Your posts are the best Mole. Keep it up
  • Mole

    As of lately you post within 1 or2 hour for the market to close, people are watching the tape and then are drained (as I'm in GMT and still short and my signals haven't bone a bulish reversal I'm often leaving for dinner before market closes)

    And sometimes one wonders your take on the more personnel approaches one shares. I still post, dayly, my bpspx and my spx:gold perspective; the other day you asked what BB I was talking about, I did a summary and didn't get a "bulshit" or a "interesting" answer

    Even today I mentioned that the spiral callendar pointed to ramp up jobs and mentioned you'd probably find other earlier dates... answer zero as well.

    And it is the same for everyone, posted a dozen comments (still open) woke up had zero answers.

    and in the previous post? I have one thing that asked for comments (here's the start) http://evilspeculator.com/?p=13420#comment-25312854

    it bothers me... care to take a look? basicaly we can still have the craziest v ...

    at least take a look, raised and gerbil found sonme of my existential doubts interesting, maybe you can find them useful and as far more experienced you can surely add a lot of value (I'm new to TA, hardly an year on classic TA and barely 6 months on EWT and some things I'm discovering)

    best regards and think that we always wait for and read your posts, besides, raised did a far better job explaining certain timing issues

    thanks
  • PRSGuitars
    We should also consider the disparity in expertise (caliber AND type) on the board. For example I know nothing about spiral calendars and haven't yet gotten to them, thus, I'd need to know more to comment effectively (hence I often keep my mouth shut).

    hard to analyze this stuff as we're trying to discern the intent of the otherwise silent masses -- then you realize, wait, we're ALL part of that crowd sometimes, its not that hard to identify what's going on...

    Mole, do you have any ratios of unique-visitors-compared-to-unique-commenters? Like, how much participation is going on? I imagine we'd find 100 viewers for every 5 commenters and easily 100 viewers for 1 repeat commenter (much less an ALL STAR, woo!!, like SSH, or RaisedbyWolves, myself, *ahem*, moderator star is about as close to captaining any sports team as I'll get). Just to say that it'd likely show the brains set on 'receive' far outnumbers those set than 'give&take', or even on 'prodigious commentary' such as you (Mole), CentrifDeforest or Gmak.

    Seriously, 100:5 for viewers to commenters and 100:1 for viewers to repeat commenters (like, 'regulars'). Just my guess.
  • PSR you're probably wrong by magnitudes (I'd bet on thousands of unique views)

    but you are right on one thing, some of us are experts (or playing with expert tools) that others lack and don't feel at ease talking about (I spent months without posting anything)

    talking of which.... there is one thing that helped me a lot on EWT crash course, and I still haven't received a comment on possible errors by serious EWTers

    I posted it a week ago

    BTW, can any of the senior EWTers around here check this quick guide to EWT? I found it useful when it was online at geocities, but the link died

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/23363645/Elliott-wave-rules-and-guidelines

    p.s. due credit as in the original page was kept and I am not aware of this being anything other than public domain

    maybe this can help those that are starting on Elliott Wave Theory
  • PRSGuitars
    It is uncanny how EvilSpec has helped my trading; this is no different. You
    just gave me a killer link for exactly what I need -- a comprehensive,
    straightforward text list of EW rules. Completely by chance! Nice!

    Seriously, I'm EW-literate but I could not tell you the backbone of how a
    zig-zag should appear (i could get close, but this is as much as I can tell
    you about diagonals: http://www.screencast.com/t/NzA0MjIyO). Now I will be
    much better off! Bravo...

    You are the fuckin' man. A+, Hamster.
  • nasty guitars... I POSTED IT A WEEK AGO (and tried posting it as text a month ago)

    check it to see if it has errors ... please
  • raised_by_wolves
    On the subject to $DXY reversals, when do you officially call it a reversal? Tuesday's high was 76.31, which was one of the high frequency short reversals Retracement Levels gave you and you gave us and I put on my chart (very useful!). Now that 24 hours has gone by and that level has not been breached, do you still keep an eye on 76.65 but mostly shift your focus to a long reversal? That's what I'm doing except that I don't yet have the next long reversal because I've been a cheap bastard and haven't bought Retracement Levels yet. The levels are dynamic, aren't they? Once the next long reversal takes place, 76.31 may not be one of the high frequency short reversals anymore, I'm guessing. Hmm, I'm thinking about buying Retracement Levels and simultaneously opening an FX account. I can pretty much passively manage my long term puts, checking on them once a day. There's more active management required for my hedges, but even those don't occupy too much of my time as a swing trader. Hell, trading FX could be my new form of hedging. Instead of thinking of hedging as a short/long position thing, I could think of it as a short-term/long-term timeframe thing. Also, I'm naturally nocturnal so like the idea of trading anytime.

    Speaking of time, and in reply to your comment, it is a most definitely a timing thing.

    If it is a priority of yours to maximize your comment count, I'd say you'd have to post an hour (no more than two) after Gmak. When you post near market close, most rats barely have enough energy to read your post and leave a thank-you-Mole comment. A lot of them do that, but you're not going to find as much market analysis in the comments until the evening and early morning hours. By then, you may be less likely to read those comments because you're either sleeping or, once you wake up, you're too busy to go back and read the old comments. Those late posts are still worth doing because they are like gold to those who read them (which I'm guessing is most of your regular readers), but you're not going to be able to gauge their success by the comment count.

    This is how it is for a lot of the rats too: They may go back and read your post, but they are less likely to comment in an old thread when trading has started and the real-time discussion has moved to the newest thread (usually gmak's).

    This timing thing affects me too since most rats see my 100 characters comments during market hours but miss any 500 words comment I write at night. Oh well, I'm not too concerned about it.

    Personally, I like reading your posts and CD's at night (while drinking alcohol) and gmak's in the morning (while drinking coffee).

    Sorry I never got around to commenting on your meaty post. Too late now. Beer is gone. Time for bed (and maybe a chess move).
  • PRSGuitars
    Great point -- i often wondered why my posts were met with abject silence (then I realized I do my posting overnight - duhhh....)

    Don't beat yourself up, dear mole. Take it easy and keep putting out A+ work like this - I've noticed more and more "i lurk but don't comment, but now..." type of posts, which is good for business!

    Cheers buddy
  • gregn
    I keep everything market related to market hours as I leave my day job soon after the bell. However, I always check back in here while snuggled in my covers next to my sleepIng wife. It's a shame that your schedule does not permit you to be more active during trading hiurs, I for one miss your presense during those hours. You are a busy guy in a different time zone than most of us.
  • finalbull
    excellent post.
  • marcopolo101520
    Song for tomorrow....for my inverse 2x....mole you remember CC? hot!
  • marcopolo101520
  • vision_invisible
    ya man these days im winding it down 930ish cst
  • Famous last words...

    “Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt ?” — Socrates (c.469-399BC).
  • PRSGuitars
    Significance not lost on me, now go drink your hemlock old man (bedtime for me, too)
  • vision_invisible
    Comedy: There are many small/micro bubbles in China that are being leveraged by locals. For example, there is a continual garlic bubble and bust. One student stored enough garlic at the bust and then sold during the boom to pay his school fee's. Many individuals are in on the garlic trade to make a little money.

    I see China continuing to stimulate and spend like mad next year, trying to create a consumer society ...given the lattitude of a weakening american $ there is no point in holding onto reserves and worse, strengthening the yuan - I think it will be a very ugly 2011-2012.
  • Angery Bear
    Mole, your posts are excellent. I never post here but I do read you all the time. Thank you.
  • creativity of human mind never cease to amuse
    when 99 methods have failed and not fulfilled our hopes and expectations - we coming up with yet 100th method and when it fail - we still feel good because there are another 1000th of methods we have not tried yet...with the same result.
    only one method that proved to be working for ages - risk management been overlooked as very boring...
    yellow brick road...
  • thanks for the ssh joke ;-)

  • Right on my comrade. I have had this same thought many times. This is the art of trading.
  • Chi-Town Deadhead
    Momac,

    I live just north of Chicago and my town of 44,000 did that same thing starting 2 years ago. They have also started to out source street and sanitation jobs including snow plowing. They let a bunch of people retire early and have condensed a number of inspection positions into a small group. (How does a building inspector become the fire inspector too?) Now they are talking about charging those of us with commercial buildings for the fire inspections. WTF is that? The thing that really gets me is that they just open a line of credit with the local bank for 15 million because they know tax revenue will be low. Again WTF, cut some of the underutilized programs and stop pulling ridiculous taxes and fees out of your asses. I am surprised we have not had our ratings cut yet.

    It's seems that your town has been doing well in comparison. If they are just starting to feel it then you are much better off than we are.
  • momac
    Yes, I think it isn't as bad around here. This is mainly a farming community. A few factories in the neighboring towns, and they have been laying off. We did have one factory here but they went bankrupt last year. It seems that whatever is happening on the coasts and the bigger cities doesn't hit here for a couple of years.
  • VirginiaJim
    December 10, 2009 is the Spiral Calendar F25 from the October 19, 1987 crash FWIW.

    http://www.screencast.com/users/Virginia_Jim/folders/Jing/media/cbbf0e38-db05-4d76-a623-e7dea7705fe6


    Jim
  • F25 - wow. Yeah, I actually saw that table a few weeks ago. Was very disappointed when the 11/23 lower high didn't happen - instead we got a new high - not sure why he shows an error of only 5 days - seems wrong.

    So, forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical about tomorrow ;-)

    Hey, if we're wrong with F25 then it's only six more years to F26 - buying December 2015 puts now - LOL
  • VirginiaJim
    Yes. I was disappointed as well and wrote a tome on the "1929/1987 Spiral Calendar Analog" being invalid. But that does not mean one date can't work out. July 11, 2009 was predicted by the Spiral Calendar F25 to be a significant low while the whole world was waiting for the most publicized H&S that I can ever recall take the market to new lows. So, give the SC December 10 a couple days allowance and we could get a Christmas surprise like no other heretofore. I have no idea one way or the other. My money's large short.

    Do any crashes begin on a Thursday (Dec 10)? Or, for that matter, do any crashes occur after October? Puetz, Carolan and Eliades work would say 'no.' So, it's been a real long shot from the beginning.

    Don't forget your counseling that a couple trading days allowance is warranted. As Fibonacci Forecaster (Jeff Greenblatt) was saying last night, we have the official default of Dubai occurring Monday, Greece ready to default, the bond market ready to tank and a litany of other problems at near critical mass. All it takes is that first spark to start the panic to the highly shorted dollar that would crush equities. Even Sir Richard Russell jumped on the wagon last night saying he's just seen two Dow non confirms.

    " Frankly, I haven't seen a "double non-confirmation" since the 1960s, and I doubt whether one analyst in ten thousand would recognize one. Shows the advantage of being an "old guy." If you live long enough, you've seen everything."

    At this point it would be more fashionable for the big one to occur in the Puetz Crash or Panic windows in the first of 2010. Just doesn't seem like to me it can wait that long. But it didn't seem to me it would wait this long either.

    Great commentary tonight (as per normal).

    Jim
  • killertrades
    I can't get over them saying"no crashes after Oct". That is a is a CLASSIC Black Swan statement. It has never happened so it can't???? Come on.
    Joe
  • VirginiaJim
    I agree. Even Steve Puetz, the first discoverer of the crash and panic windows, agrees it's looking like it (his short term update issued two days ago gives it a real possibility).

    I'd ask my buddy Nassim Taleb but he said he was going into exile because we're so stupid as to allow Bernanke another term. Seriously Taleb stated on Huffington Post he is going into hibernation and await the ultimate economic demise.

    Jim
  • ramp jobs, not because of spiral per se but because EWT says major move ended (unless rules are broken and invalidate the count, namely 3 being the shortest)
  • bpspx still says down
    thecandles on spx:gold seem bearish (though I don't like the zone), and the gaps tell an interesting story

    the count is bearish for now

    PPT will have to concede at least .87 on spx IMHO

    hamster logging off
  • vision_invisible
    Thanks Mole. In reading the tea leaves, the elephant in the room is being left out (imo).

    In what kind of world do 100Billions of Treasuries get sold off and yields on those are low and (even at times) getting lower? Is it because investors are running to safety? LOL. No.

    There is clearly buying by banks to support these auctions, and this is probably going to continue into the future. Part of this trade is funding their continuous bailout and toxic crap for treasury swap. Part of this is the hand-shake deal that the banks will keep funding SugarDaddy Treasury which has wars and a military industrial complex to run (as well as food stamps and state bailouts), while SugarDaddy will not do anything to stop the bank bailouts (and definitely not anything more radical like true accounting or nationalization).

    I think smallish flare ups like Dubai, or Greece etc will give us opportunities on the short side, but I definitely question the idea that the (elephant in the room) trend will structurally change.



  • small detail, it's more like "we buy treasuries and take trashy collaterals, you buy government bonds"

    the fed can print, the government has to tax or beg

    the fed wasn't supposed to be having ambien sex with the government every 5 minutes
  • Thanks for the all the charts and analysis, Mole. I'm expecting that Mr. Vix will give us a buy signal in the next week (I thought the first part would come today -- maybe tomorrow). The BB's are so compressed right now -- a close over 25 wouldn't even be particularly hard.

    I think it will take another major failure that hasn't yet been 'priced in' to move that spread up. I can't even see a mini-spike from Dubai on that chart!
  • http://tonysmarketanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/12/note-from-jim.html
    Mole we have an F25 off 1987 and F29 of 1929 crash low tomorrow through the 12th/See post here from Virginia Jim
  • Tronacate
    With tax receipts falling apart, when do we see the muni bonds default??
  • momac
    I'm very surprised it hasn't already started. I just read in the local paper (very small town, less than 5000) that they are doing away with 3 dispatcher jobs for the police department. Everyone is hurting, I think at the beginning of the year when the total tally for the sales tax receipts come in, it's going to start freaking out alot of county and cities all over the country.
  • we must drop tomorrow or its killing time
    lol
  • cantabnomad
    Great post, thanks!
  • WOW, Mole, you out did yourself with this post!!
    Eagle1, also brought up dec 12th for an important turn date with the Neo-wave system
  • Meh - I wish I had more decisive news to report - but thanks anyway.
  • LOL, I know the feeling, almost got the Twilight Zone feeling that everyday keeps repeating itself. Most exciting chart I found this evening was the BPI, which made a lower low, and still diverging.
  • You mean Groundhog Day - but I'm sure there's a Twilight Zone episode of that theme.
  • Mole I just posted the thread on the F25 '87 crash and F29 off '29 Crash. I included my URL so you could read the whole thing
  • So, where is it?
  • bsummertime
    great post mole. traded dec GS and AAPL today and covered Christmas. My pick was GS but thanks for the AAPL call!!!
  • texpresso
    some people were not very impressed with last weeks jobs report, good stuff; JOLT report finds hiring has not improved at all, still 6 seekers per job

    http://markettalk.newswires-americas.com/?p=6816
  • jacksoo
    Hi Mole - just got time to read thru' this post this morning - excellent, many thanks.
  • texpresso
    Dick Bove says Wells Fargo will need to create ~1 B-B-Biliion shares of additional equity soon
  • texpresso
    anyone out there shorting WFC?
  • I'd be very careful with WFC - yes, it's possible this H&S resolves, but I am looking at some other momo charts of mine and would not feel comfortable shorting here. Maybe if you got an entry earlier and had some profits to burn to bet on a decisive drop through the neckline.
  • great work
  • vision_invisible
    I have a lot of January $25 puts on WFC bought many months back. I'm getting demolished on that position. Time + Price prediction is a tough go. Wish I would have written calls or calls spreads.


  • texpresso
    Bove said they will need to issue about another billion shares in order to have enough operating leverage to move forward; if that drops price 20%, how will your position be effected?
  • vision_invisible
    im closing 50% out now with 50% loss, and the rest will ride hoping for a new year's drop
  • sloth_bear
    thanks mole for all your black magic!
  • Thanks lazy bear :-)
  • Gold_Gerb
    BB(52,.618) = 111.00
    GLD close 110.84

    Hammie wizardy or pure coincidence?
    :-D
  • X13's (.618 working month), N.618 fibs

    elliott would approve
  • centerline
    FWIW, SPX turned at pivot, creating a nice TL drawn from intraday high on 12/4 and 12/7 and today at HOD.
  • marcopolo101520
    chart pls
  • centerline
    Someone over at SOH noticed the same thing.

    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5150/spx5min12092009.png

    thanks goes to Shell Game over at SOH. If posting this link is bad for business despite my giving credit to the author, someone with moderator rights please delete this and accept my apology in advance.
  • marcopolo101520
    I can see clearly now, the snow is gone and I'm home where I can freely open anything.
  • agree
  • centerline
    my system has been so messed up I can't seem to get much running at all lately. Will try.
  • Captain Obvious
    LQD is nasty
  • what do you think of EDD ?
  • Careful trading this thing - charts like this scare me.
  • Tronacate
    Let's see this bitch get sold the last 10min
  • Gold_Gerb
  • gregn
    Looks like we may be repeating fractal from Nov 27th to Dec 2nd. A confirmation of this would be a gap up tomorrow over 1097.
  • centerline
    Well. That was an textbook turn at the upper pivot on SPX. Would be nice to see this reverse again right into the close. As CD pointed out, low vol. Supports wave 2 theory IMO. Wave 3 down tomorrow into spiral date maybe. Also my timing end date - no further plays this month if we don't get a turn by tomorrow.
  • Lower vol rise today w rather bland breadth
  • Captain Obvious
    Agree, I see this as working off short term momentum before we precede lower. The short covering rallies have lost quite a bit of their punch.
  • Tronacate
    Gerbil.......just wait until they start slapping the biometric IDs on people.....in the name of "security"........it's coming
  • Schwerepunkt
    Yes, datapoint number one will be sphincter size.
  • Tronacate
    ^^^^^spitting soda out nose
  • Schwerepunkt
    My apologies. I won't be telling you how they will measure that biometric then. There might be children or bulls reading this.
  • Tronacate
    Some sort of Skull and Boner initiation no doubt
  • LOL

    My take is that it's like the markets - the more people that know about all that crap, the less likely it is to happen.

    Besides - look on the bright side - they're (we're?) too broke to afford it now anyway.
  • Me_XMan
    It won't die.
  • Gold_Gerb
    Wow. (ok, i'm an attention-W at this point)
  • HOD lower than yesterday; LOD lower; BIG zero lite divergence (zero participation) on the high just then.

    Don't sweat it.
  • marcopolo101520
    so you stay short? any big news tomorrow?
  • I have a mix of positions in play - most have a long time to run, so it's no recommendation one way or the other - merely a personal observation on the short term: there's not much to suggest an imminent change of direction.

    Which is not to say that there won't be one.
  • marcopolo101520
    current direction? so far was down last few days
  • Yep, that's true for SPX. That's all I'm saying - ramp into the close, sure, but still lower highs, lower lows.
  • Captain Obvious
    Everyone calling their broker to buy some of this C offering?
  • K.I.M.
    appl should stop around 197-198. To stay in a channel.
  • Gold_Gerb
    almost looks like an island reversal down at the bottom (20day)
  • Gold_Gerb
    SPY 110. good call gerbil! <glug glug=""></glug>
  • roscoe_casita
    This violent bear market rally is letting its true colors show a bit too much...
  • Schwerepunkt
    IF ES closes above 1099.25, we'll get a green candle using Heikin Ashi. That would lead to a 2-3 day rally and a retest of 1119.
  • I am going to need to read this one again tonight with a bottle of wine (preferably after reading)
  • Still working on reading this post (difficult w action right now)
    ...looks gr8!
  • raised_by_wolves
    Mole, I have to go so will spend some quality time with your uber evil post later and will perhaps comment tonight.

    With Anna gone, I feel like I was today's attention whore. Forgive me if I was too chatty. I'll make it up to you by only posting charts and analysis tomorrow.
  • that would be the day I knew you'd been snatched and replaced by a pod
  • raised_by_wolves
    I (or my pod replacement) will see you tomorrow.
  • I'll be away part of the GMT PM, grateful if you can marshall the troops
  • Gold_Gerb
    I-pod.
  • :-)
  • roscoe_casita
    WOOOOOW!!!!!
  • raised_by_wolves
    To what were you referring?

    The dollar dropping?

    http://screencast.com/t/OTAzYzVk

    $VIX falling? May as well draw the path of the next candles in advance:

    http://screencast.com/t/YjRlOTgxM
  • roscoe_casita
    /TF & /ES

    1% rally in 1 hour
  • Just reloaded my 2nd half AAPL short

    ...at 50-day ma and vol lower on this rise; so sticking my throat out
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