ISEE Red Candles

Okay, so I lied. I was planning to completely forget about trading during the Thanksgiving holidays but then I ran into this chart this morning and just couldn’t help myself:

This is the equities only portion of the ISEE chart. In response to some of the pitfalls in the traditional put/call ratio the International Securities Exchange (ISE) publishes their own modified version called the ISEE index. Unlike the old school p/c ratio the ISEE filters out trades from both market makers and broker/dealers. The ISEE further differentiates itself by using only opening long trades in it’s tabulations.

As such the ISEE presents a much clearer picture of how retail options traders are positioned. The ISEE also uses a different equation than the regular p/c in calculating their index. To formulate the ISEE, the exchange takes the modified call volume, divides it by the put side and then multiplies the result by 100. Hence the ISEE is always a whole number.

With a normalized p/c equation a higher reading symbolizes greater put activity to calls while the ISEE formula generates higher readings if call buyers outweigh put buyers. So while a traditional p/c ratio of .75 would mean more puts than calls an ISEE value of 75 is the exact opposite. Like the CBOE the ISE also offers updated calculations of their p/c index several times an hour.

Okay, now that we’re all on the same page you might get an idea where I’m going with this. The high spikes I highlighted mark extreme ISEE readings above 230, which just so happen to precede turning points by a few days. Now, let’s correlate these spikes with daily candles on the SPX:

As you can see the ISEE spikes precede turns by a few days, but they are very reliable. Hey, I prefer a few days early than a few days late. What’s particularly notable is the 247 reading last Tuesday, which is the highest as far as I can see back. It was followed by a 241 close last night, which would be a strong reading on its very own. So, chances are that a significant market decline is imminent, and it is most likely only a few days away.

We now again find ourselves at highly overbought conditions coupled with wide-spread divergences across various averages. Gold and other precious metals were up, with oil and natural gas down as well as the dollar down. The inverse correlation between the dollar and equities are beginning to soften as new extreme down moves in the buck are not accompanied by equally strong up moves in equities. I think Chris Carolan said it best:

The accelerating nature of the dollar decline and gold rally may finally have reached the point where any international earnings positives for stocks are outweighed by the downside of the obvious increasing monetary instability.  The markets look like they’re about to get scared again.

In other words – the dollar carry trade is running out of oxygen. I believe Karl ‘No Slave To Fashion’ Denninger made the same point just two weeks ago, and you might want to take a look at his latest update on the subject. Another strange new phenomenon is the VIX rising and falling in line with equities, which confirms Carolan’s point that fear is creeping back into the market. All this suggests that conditions are now favorable for a market decline. You have been warned.

I have been quite verbose on the notion that the thinly traded rally of past few days was designed to further discourage the bears and to shake out weak hands. I’m sure that many traders simply gave up and cashed out as to not to suffer from further theta burn throughout the long weekend. I myself was very tempted but did not yield to my emotions – which was for the better as the ES futures are down a whopping 25 points right now. Yes, this may be quickly reversed tomorrow or Monday but on a more medium term those ISEE readings are usually good for at least a one week reversal.

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Enjoy the rest of the weekend – I might pop in and out tomorrow but don’t expect me right at the opening bell – I’m sleeping in tomorrow ;-)

7:30pm EDT: A little update – I got fascinated with the ISEE and worked all day to import the data into Excel – here are some follow up charts for you guys:

Now, isn’t that a lot nicer? I have also highlighted all spikes above 135 and all drops below 100 in the past year.

Here is the ISEE 10-day MA version – the focus here is twofold: First we have divergences which seem to indicate that a medium term trend is running out of steam. Then we also have a pretty obvious channel to the upside, which seems to also be a precursor for turning points lately – it’s actually more timely than the pure data as of late. You might have noticed that we have not pushed into the upper channel line this time around, so perhaps more upside is a possibility.

This entry was posted on Thursday, November 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pm and is filed under Market Outlook, Trading Psychology. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  • cool stuff

    but S&P if going to 1170 by dec....as usual people are getting bearish ...and bulls always climb the worry wall.

    fresbee
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  • Cypherd
    Excellent work Mole, this is an indicator I like quite a bit.
  • gmak
    I'm peeking my head in here, avoiding the hurtling dishes and pots and pans, to say (even though the post up there is GREAT!)

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  • ClutchShorter
    Yo bob and faq_, both of you just chill out. We're here to make money. CAN we focus on the OPPORTUNITIES we have on hand right now?
  • I_need_more_cowbell
    Newbie lurker here. I am not a trader per se, but enjoy this site for all the commentary, there is so much to be learned. Not to mention mucho sardonic humor, exactly my style.
    I want to say thanks though, as my own due diligence was very much bolstered by the general feel here. it allowed me confidence to hold TZA and FAZ in one account, and 2.5 short Russell fund in another.
    I have been net down just slightly, but held with faith that the top was indeed close- its just not my style trade often; bot exactly buy and hold, but buy and hold for weeks at a time or more.
  • Guest
    On a sad note, AcrossTheCurve.com is shutting down as the blogger is moving on to a proper job. Was the best fixed income blog out there.
  • kanur
    He was good, yes. Even though I thought he would have know better than use the liquidity excuse for the negative bill rates.
  • gmak!

    do you have a daily news ready?
  • ClutchShorter
    Holy shit!! Asian markets took a hit. 1000 points on Hang Seng
  • DAX.. again broken the wedge form March now hovering just below...will it be another false break..?
    http://www.screencast.com/t/Mjc4NzU3NTY
  • tradejane
    Great chart. :)

    Ideally the DAX needs to remain below 5650 to confirm this as the real thing but, even if it does go above that area, there's now all sort of resistance all the way up to 5840 to contend with.
  • yes "they" won't make it easy, I'm sure a lot of headfakes up and down before we resolve this ..DOWN!
  • Blood in the Streets
    I think I will buy an evil speculator shirt with my gains today.
  • goldpackers
    Where is a good bull blog site to read? Curious what the other side thinks.
  • kanur
    Well, you asked for it:

    http://beanieville.blogspot.com/
  • goldpackers
    Thanks! Want to see their psychie this morning.
  • spicestory
    please come up with an upgrade T -- the black swan V1.10 -- the V1.0 really does work its magic
  • standard_and_poor
  • standard_and_poor
    Closed out half of ES from 1095 at 1069, not sure of what tomorrow will bring but expect some sort of retracement for adding more shorts - mostly etfs.
    Goodnight rats.
  • All I gotta say is holy fuck.
  • well said
  • Guest
    Look - I have to say something here. This fa_q person has decided that it makes him a big man to hurl abuse at me on this site. All I did was point out that he was wrong when he was attacked Amoka for a perceived mistake on VIX data series timelength. Is that a good reason to throw a hissy fit? Suggests a bit more going on beneath the surface to me.

    Anyway, I have no interest in getting into some pathetic shouting match with an anonymous blogger. To be honest, the sort of person who wants to shout about how great they are and how much profit they makes on trades never impress me. I've been in this industry for a while and the best people are the least brash. Funny that.

    Bigging my anonymous self up to another bunch of anonymous people isn't going to make me richer or feel better about myself. I am happy to contribute to this site because I see it as way of paying Mole for his analysis. I have told people what I am going to do, and where I am going to do it. I'll let others judge whether that makes money or not.
  • Bob, drop it, yes, it was on an escalation that you hit fa_q but you are forgeting one that was below he belt, and I don't care if you're soros or buffet, here you live by your posts, not by any money.

    but yes fa_q was out of order on insulting and asking for your ban (IMHO)

    so let's drop it
  • Guest
    I considered it dropped a while ago.

    But I don't really regret it. It was a rude comment to Amoka that was totally unprovoked. I don't like bullies, never have and I'd stand up for someone being unfairly targeted whether it was in a bar or on a blog.

    However I appreciate your attempts to mediate. Now if we can just persuade Gann to stop sulking . . . . .
  • bob, I know the context, I corrected fa_q on that one prior to your intervention (even with links confirming amokta^)

    and... do you have a hoof on gann as well??!?!?! (starting to consider fa_Q's request)

    LOL just kidding you

    on a lighter note, we now have some very dangerous inflexion points at hand, what are yours?
  • fa_q
    My final close-out post here. I covered 150 ES for a 13pt profit and 100 NQ for a 25 pts profit. Will reshort on bounce.

    Bob the horseface can go fuck himself. You contribute nothing to this page and I have printed 30k ES points. You take shots at me and then make comments like I must have a bruised ego. Nope, just better things to do with my time than read cocksuckers like you taking shots at the traders that are actually profitable on this site.

    Guitars, you've a good guy, got your email. Best of luck. Mole you do great work. Once you re-weed out the pieces of shit it will be a great site.

    Horseface, go fuck yourself.

    And no, I don't post anywhere else. I'm done posting. I'd rather spend the time worrying about myself. So thank Bob the Horsefuckface, or whatever his name is. Once he is permanently banned I'd consider posting again, but I doubt it. Nothing in it for me.

    See ya.
  • Guest
    Shorts getting killed today. Could sure use your wave-count to know where the hell this is going. SPX at 1112. Fuuuuck my life.
  • Guest
    Mole could you ban Bob. He contributes nothing, whereas Fa_q is a real pro and helps people bank coin on your site. Many people came to your site to see Fa_q's posts. Bob is some sort of wannabe and aggravates many people. I only heard about your site when I followed Faq from X-trends to your site. Unfortunately, I will no longer visit your site if F_aq does not come back. I think many feel the same way. Thanks.
  • raised_by_wolves
    The main draw is Mole's charts and commentary. That's our turkey, potatoes, ham, and yams. We lose something if Fa_q doesn't come back, but that's like going without the cranberry sauce. Maybe that's a deal breaker for you, but it's not for most of us.

    About this business of banning Bob, doesn't he meet Mole's "say what you think and why" criteria? When Bob was 100 plus percent long, he gave reasons why. In addition to Mole's "say why" criteria, which I think Bob passes, there's the question of etiquette. If Mole were to give Bob a fail, he would probably also flunk Fa_q. Even though I would suggest that Mole warn them both (as he has graciously done for me in the past) and ban neither of them at this point, I'm content to let Mole decide whatever Mole's going to decide since Mole's the decider.
  • fa_q you disapointed me on that post

    you restarted someting that was dead
    you ask to ban someone who took a jab at you when you escalated a discussion
    you came back only for a final "I'm going and I taunt you"

    this is mole's blog, his call, but IMHO if that's your final position then it is final

    I wouldn't ban anyone who gives his hnest contribution to please some ego trip

    when this shit started I sent you a message giving my 3rd party opinion on the fight, asking you to relax and come back when you felt better


    this is a trading blog, not a "mine is bigger party" (BTW mole will say his is), you have your style and your angle is wellcome, any grievances aren't

    you have plenty of people who enjoy your posts, Bob as well, live with that

    p.s. next time don't make a poor hamster wake up to another row in the playground
  • Teich50
    I learned two valuable things from you:

    i) trade small enough so that I can handle a draw down. It was not easy to start to short ES from 1077 in November when ES was finally screaming at 1112. It helped that I scaled in gradually and took partial profits often;

    ii) trade to live well instead of trying to get rich.

    Thanks very much and take care.
  • kanur
    You're a smart dude. I have a hunch you'll go far. Best of luck to you.
  • Guest
    Sorry to see you go. Happy Holidays and hope you come back eventually. I don't post much but I read everything you write. Did you see Bob apologize a week ago?
  • WTF happened? Would hate to see you go mate - please reconsider. Don't you make me hurt this innocent puppy now!
  • Guest
    Mole could you ban Bob. He contributes nothing, whereas Fa_q is a real pro and helps people bank coin on your site. Many people came to your site to see Fa_q's posts. Bob is some sort of wannabe and aggravates many people. I only heard about your site when I followed Faq from X-trends to your site. Unfortunately, I will no longer visit your site if F_aq does not come back. I think many feel the same way. Thanks.
  • raised_by_wolves
    The main draw is Mole's charts and commentary. That's our turkey, potatoes, ham, and yams. We lose something if Fa_q doesn't come back, but that's like going without the cranberry sauce. Maybe that's a deal breaker for you, but it's not for most of us.

    About this business of banning Bob, doesn't he meet Mole's "say what you think and why" criteria? When Bob was 100 plus percent long, he gave reasons why. In addition to Mole's "say why" criteria, which I think Bob passes, there's the question of etiquette. If Mole were to give Bob a fail, he would probably also flunk Fa_q. Even though I would suggest that Mole warn them both (as he has graciously done for me in the past) and ban neither of them at this point, I'm content to let Mole decide whatever Mole's going to decide since Mole's the decider.
  • AMEN

    cub, care to check what I had to say about that?
  • raised_by_wolves
    Looks like you issued the warning on behalf of master.
  • kanur
    That's a dirty rotten shame dude. You're really good, even if you do suffer from premature eja - I mean trading execution at times. (Don't we all?)

    But Bob is good too. He kept this site on top of things with Dubai and he did say he was short when every one else was calling for infinity and beyond.

    Can't we have ya both?
  • Hopefully you will change your mind...don't go, I know I do not post at all but I read almost everything U post....
  • Guest
    Did your mother not love you?
  • Teich50
    fa_q booked 30k ES points of profits while posting his trades in real time. What have you done? As they say, money talks but bull$hit walks.
  • Can't you two get along? Let's all focus on banking coin now.
  • Guest
    I didn't start it, didn't escalate it, didn't fester in a dark room for days and come back this morning to try and kick it off again. Seriously - go back and look at the chat logs. I even apologised to try and sooth his ruffled feathers.
  • Guest
    I don't think he saw your apology since you posted it in a reply to someone else. But thanks, that was a nice gesture.
  • mrclam
    fa_q,
    i always enjoyed your posts and liked reading your trades. sorry to see you go, wish you the best.
  • jdude
    That sucks. You provide such good insight. Been following you, best brotha!
  • Niktus
    Went to bed for a meager 5h and this is what happens... Tsskkk... Tsssk...
    Errr... wait I am short :-)

    It's freaking early, cant put rammstein to comemorate. Will have to stay with the coffee
  • tradejane
    Thanks for the emergency post, Mole. Then again no real trader could possibly resist this development.

    This morning's charts are a sight to behold. I wonder how long it's going to take them before they start blaming those "evil speculators" again.

    DAX currently at 5535 - any stock remotely connected to the Arabs is getting smashed. Is Volkswagen BROKE? It sure trades as if. My broker won't let me short them anymore. (Ever since that attempted Porsche takeover.)
  • goldpackers
    WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE BULL SITE? I would like to read what they are saying. Thanks.
  • Actually I wrote the first part of the post blissfully ignorant about the futures being down - pure coincidence.
  • The tone of your prior post makes this obvious, and this makes your work obviously spot on.
  • tradejane
    So you're worst than I thought. :D

    I expect a nasty retrace too, after all nothing goes up or down in a straight line. But if the drop in gold/eur is any indication this could well be the beginning of another deflationary wave.

  • TWD
    You know those VAG products always have some sort of electrical PMS issues.
  • tradejane
    I wouldn't know. Then again I've only had Italian cars. (Because I'm glutton for punishment.)
  • TWD
    Euro just got fucking spanked. It's under 1.49.
  • jdude
    Long time lurker/newbie in training. Damn good post mole!
  • Scoops
    OK in case you weren't a traitorous swine like me, you may have missed this vid by a Slope poster.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-MVcdT_ApE



  • It's all good - we all love the Slope (when T.K. posts that is).
  • Well said....Berk rocks, but all these guest posters, imposters may we call them, do not lend a solid base to a blog.
  • gregn
    Wow what a sell off, beautiful.
  • Scoops
    I was so short going into TG that I triggered the margin call warning from IB. Guess that's taken care of now.
  • Graphite
    Wish I could "like" this post 50 times :)
  • Scoops
    This is getting serious. And to think it's all going to be compressed into half a trading day.
  • short /YG right now from 1179. dropping fast.
  • Not to piss on the parade, but I don't think this is it. More downside, sure, but not the start of P3.
    http://tinyurl.com/ykwylyg
  • chicken, one thing at a time, even if this is the start of a B of an ABC, it no longer looks like a flat (in spx:gold) so... major retrace in order (search for a post of mine on wednesday)
  • and... got out for +2 points.
  • ClutchShorter
    ES -30
    DOW -250
    NASDAQ -52
  • Gold_Gerb
    so, good chance of gap open down Friday?
    futures are not my thing.
  • kryxtal
    Big gap down for Friday.

    The question is whether or not it gets filled, and when. Gaps this big like to get filled pretty quickly.
  • yes...true...also DAX and AUDUSD have both broken below the wedges formed since March 09, needs to stay below but looks promising...
  • de3600
    ya just watched that drop wow
  • Down 32 points, craziness
  • Going, going, gone...
  • amity
    Thanks for the post. Could you please refresh my memory with the site dealing with candlestick tutorial you mentioned sometime in the past. Do you have a link for ISSE?Thanks again.
  • my bid at 1078 on the /ES just got filled. got my stops in and going for a ride.
  • ClutchShorter
    Omg, I saw Dow up 40 points on TV and got nervous but then I realized it was Wednesday's market close.

    SPX Futures 1083.90
    DOW Futures 10246.00
    Nikkei is currently -750 points (plus -400 earlier)


    Dubai is an indication of the issues surrounding commercial real estate and the fact that banks around the world are simply hiding their losses. This is exactly what happened during sub-prime. Banks were hiding their losses until one of them - namely Bear Stearns cracked and became insolvent. You think banks are well capitalized? They are probably sitting on billions of losses that they have yet made public.
  • bananaben
    This samurai never relinquished his positions and expects to be rewarded tomorrow big time. If Dubai can set the world markets on fire just wait until Greece, Ukraine, Alt-A, Option ARM and CRE totally implodes. Wasn't GS just saying how the month of December is so great for equity investors that they better get in before it's too late?
  • Sleepynaptime
    Just woke up from my holiday-induced stupor - wow! Tomorrow looks like it will be fun! Might end up glad I held onto most of my puts.

    Thanks fore the charts Mole.
  • de3600
    holy shit what the hell did i miss
  • Scoops
    See my vid link for a quick refresher courtesy of some dude that actually took video of this debacle. Now that is evil.
  • You missed out on a lot of Thanksgiving fun :-)
  • centerline
    Just got back and wow... Hang Seng and Nikkei coughing up a lung now too. Thanks for the post Mole.
  • Gold_Gerb
  • bubble jeopardy
    sure those aren't spleen shoots?
  • Gold_Gerb
    maybe!
    http://medicalimages.allrefer.com/large/spleen-anatomy.jpg

    either way, i don't plan on passing any blood tomorrow.
    ;-)
  • Very excellent post, mole. I remember you talking about the ISEE a bit last fall, but never got around to doing much with it myself. I think I'll at to my list of things I need to work with (right behind that FFT/RSI analyzer I was going to code -- damn day job is getting in the way of my trading).

    Cheers!
  • No worries - I'll keep posting this sweet puppy when it nears important reversal zones.
  • Nightwind
    Any clue or event that caused the rollover?
  • bo_10
    http://screencast.com/t/NGUxZTBjM

    Mole: if this link comes through would it be possible to get your opinion on this wave count - as it is radically different from most and I am confused.

    It is from a HOB site poster - having followed your site for some time, and knowing somewhat of the history I do not ask to cause a blog problem - just your opinion on the count. I have little experience with EWT - but have purchased the book, read it cover to cover this past week - after following what you are doing here. But, as you know (better than me) this is something that requires reading, re-reading, study and a lot of work to get a frim grasp on. Not asking for spoon feeding on stock tips, but your insite on wave counts is of value to us all starting out with this.
    I will also understand if you tell me to piss off and go back to studying for myself.
  • If you compare the 2000 to 2009 period it's quite obvious that we are tracing out a flat of supercycle degree - plus his/her a-b-c counts are quite simply wrong. Which means that what he/she depicts as the entire cycle wave c is actually just {1} of c - which means the best is yet to come. Proof of that is how {2} of c has unfolded - bull markets don't move like that - it's a bear market rally, also evidenced by the fact that bullish investor sentiment at this low reading is already rivaling that of the 2007 top.

    You also want to ask yourself who you want to take counts from - I haven't been doing so badly in the past 1 1/2 years since I started this thing. Or stick with some guy on a blog who probably just finished reading Prechter's book and thinks he/she is God's gift to Elliotticians ;-)
  • bpspx wasn't rivaling, it was BEYOND 2007

    BTW, I better review my crazy BPSPX lines to post something later on possible inflexion points
  • Graphite
    So many pikers in the so-called "bear blogs" these days. A slow 4-year grind? New highs? Yeah right! Have they looked at a chart of the Debt/GDP ratio and how it compares with what preceded the 1930s? You're telling me that all unwinds with a "muddle through"?
  • What's the phrase I'm looking for... ah yes, Boo-yah!
  • Booh-yah-ka!
  • fast996
    Here's my opinion on your chart. The economic fundamentals aren't there and the high p/e multiples would be stratospheric at 15K Dow.

    The consumer is solidly tapped out and desperatly trying to reliquify.

    We have at this minute a breakaway gap down from a 9 month long rising wedge pattern. This wedge exhibited a total exhaustion last thrust up Wednesday kissing the backside of the lower trend channel. From the October top 5 waves down were completed breaking the lower boundry of this wedge. The recent wave up took the form of a ABC-X-ABC where there are multiple non confirmations. This breakaway should start a primary five wave decline down. Should be spectacular on the downside with my target to below 4000 on the Dow(too bearish?). But given the 30 year long credit bubble deleverging taking place, not out of the realm of reality. Cheers
    fast
  • I got a partial fill on the 1.4974 (2 out of 6) and just blew that out now for ok profit, 1.4940
    ...looking to re-enter the full 3rd again now a smidge higher, 1.4979
  • Gold_Gerb
    omg, i'm hard core.
    Forget Friday, Forget monday..holiday thin volume and month end paint the tape. This bear is wishing for a very merry December.
  • http://screencast.com/t/NzEzZmY5

    Future bear flag on the tick chart
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    ES at the lows now :) Boy oh BOy
  • I want to see 1083 breached - that'll accelerate things nicely.
  • till 990 is broken we're still on murky waters
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Looks like ES is breaking down earlier than i expected.......down 31....BOY oh BOy
  • vision_invisible
    In the you've got to be joking column: China - The average annual income is $6546 and apartments go for $182000.

    An apartment of 80 sq m costs almost 1.25 million yuan, which would require a household of two wage-earners to repay with half their salaries for 30 years -- without interest. But the popular concept of owning a home as a requirement for marriage is driving many young couples apart as the dream becomes unattainable. Professor Wang Fuzhong, of Beihang University finance department, blames the economic structure in which local governments profit greatly from the property industry, lessening their incentive to curb prices.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2009-11/25/content_9050756.htm

    Isn't being in jail better than this?
  • Jiny
    Chinese companies usually subsidy the housing: sell apartment to its workers at much much lower price, and also help pay for the apartment that is usually very near to work.
  • Damn - another bubble in the making...
  • centerline
    Simply amazing. History just repeats itself over and over.
  • Could get really ugly... Negative short term t-bill rates, Dollar up big & Gold is up too. Looking around the interweb you can just smell the panic I can see things coming unglued very quickly....
  • BigHouse(Aka Mr Vix)
    Looks like es is ready for another big move tonight.

    http://screencast.com/t/MjdmYjU5
  • Going for 1.4974 to re-enter first 3rd
  • Scoops
    For those interested.....not even close to blowing a fuse.

    http://www.nyse.com/press/circuit_breakers.html

  • those are the official ones do you believe the london crap? -3% and glitch?
  • Scoops
    Point well taken.
  • Scoops
    Nvm the helicopter. Ben's going to need to bust out the Antonov for this shit show.
  • vision_invisible
    Hey Mole, have you ever thought of automating this stuff? Truly evil would be a page of such graphs continually updated.
  • Automating what? The graphs? Wow, that would be so much work and would not be worth it. T.K. tried that and abandoned his old blog engine - it never worked right.
  • Out of Euro for moment too easy - 1.4952
  • marketmaker
    I'm as excited as everyone else, as my account is delta negative.

    However, this gives me pause:

    http://www.mrswing.com/articles/History_Repeats_Itself_by_Mark.html
  • vision_invisible
    Nice charts! What I get from the spikes version is a chance of a 50pt drop in max a 2, outside 3 week period (eyeballing it). That is pretty cool. It really is amazing how it also drops to the floor at bottoms.

    The MA version is interesting for the divergences. On a grand scale, take a look at the huge divergence between the rising ISEE in the last few months versus early months of 2008, and the difference in absolute market levels. (ie the 50 day would be way above the 50 day from back then)
  • Thanks - I particularly enjoy the divergences on the MA version. I think those will be very valuable going forward. Yup, I just keep building those tools - developing a nice arsenal over here...
  • Nightwind
    The white house & treasury is calling the PPT guys. Drop the turkey & dressing and get yo ass back to the trading computers before we run out of suckers...cough...cough...green shoots.
  • bubble jeopardy
    Enjoying the play by play.
  • wanessafruas
    Why have u changed your opinion? Only with the news from Dubai, u got bearish suddenly? Wow
  • I'm glad some hardcore folks are here following this exciting tape - good to not be completely alone ;-)

    RELOAD PAGE FOR NEW CHARTS
  • Niktus
    Excellent work in the ISEE data!! Thanks for sharing the charts!
  • Thanks bud - I do it for you hardcore traders - the ones who are crazy enough to be around today :-)
  • who's crazy enough for that?

    now... what will be crazy will be the cojones to hold winning shorts and only cash the coin at the right moment... specialy for those who had 30% paper losses

    you already talked about it, but remembering the "let winners ride" is in order

  • bubble jeopardy
    I'm prepared to hold until the end of P 3 or the brokers aren't able to pay off.
  • careful, on some cases it's the bottom of 3 and not 5 that yelds the most coin
  • At this point I need a very very juicy drop to make up for all the premium my long term puts lost over the last two weeks - it's been brutal.

    What I love the most about the Dubai story is the context - it happens when the VIX was trying to slip below the 20 mark - extremely bullish territory. I can't wait to see tomorrow's reading - glad I held on to those December puts - LOL :-)
  • me too, EEV also look like leveraged vix ;-)
  • I am thinking that Vix alone will have a tremendous impact on my puts.
    I was hoping to sleep in tomorrow, but methinks it best to trade Friday.
  • There will be gyrations and head fakes - I will most definitely sleep in. We should see some participation tomorrow though as I envision a lot of panic stricken bulltards are heading back early from the Hamptons tonight ;-)
  • World is for sale and coming off of a very toppy looking...top
    Short first 3rd of a Euro position again here, 1.4995
    Should have been here earlier but could not.
    Next few days look fun to trade - buy the dip, right?
  • Short? but could bounce on these channels and lower wedge line

    http://screencast.com/t/ZGJhZmM1MD
  • 2nd tranche open at moment 1.5019
  • Bankrupt
    japanese exporters are getting toasted. japan has to join the race to the fiat bottom or their manufacturing is going to collapse.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Euro lost half a penny in six minutes starting at 6:33 PM EST. That's moving extremely fast. Japan put out a bunch of numbers at 6:35. October jobs, retail sales, spending, income levels, CPI and more. They do that every month it seems. Nothing seems out of line though.

    Edit: Euro seems to have stabilized for now and so has ES. Things are looking dicey though. I may have to stay up a bit tonight. Going to watch my choking Broncos play the NY Giants starting at 8:20 pm. They've lost 4-in a row. When was the last time the stock market bulls lost 4-in a row?
  • Wow, that's a huge move!
  • Niktus
    One of the news was actually good, unemployment down from 5.3% to 5.1%. But jap speculators have their eyes elsewhere...
  • Maybe on Korea, i hear they like those car models.....
    http://singaporedaily.net/2008/07/07/daily-chiobu-im-ji-hye-2/
  • Where - in Japan?
  • wandahl
    Yep!
  • Bankrupt
    forex is very nervous. I think staying in cash is quite appropriate right now. I wont be suprised if I see 1100 tommorow when I wake up. On the other hand, I won't be surprised if I see 1050 either.

    good luck to everyone who is willing to gamble here =)
  • The whole world is buying Yens....
  • you mean selling yen right ?
  • Bankrupt
    someone needs dollars badly right now. this could get ugly if it continues.

    where is lock limit down?
  • amokta
    i see even HOB, normally more pragmatic traders seem to have gone into the P3 campus
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