Pavlov’s Dogs Are Drooling

I’m sure you rats have heard of Ivan Petrovich Pavlov – if you didn’t have the luxury of a formal education let me enlighten you:

While Ivan Pavlov worked to unveil the secrets of the digestive system, he also studied what signals triggered related phenomena, such as the secretion of saliva. When a dog encounters food, saliva starts to pour from the salivary glands located in the back of its oral cavity. This saliva is needed in order to make the food easier to swallow. The fluid also contains enzymes that break down certain compounds in the food. In humans, for example, saliva contains the enzyme amylase, an effective processor of starch.

Pavlov became interested in studying reflexes when he saw that the dogs drooled without the proper stimulus. Although no food was in sight, their saliva still dribbled. It turned out that the dogs were reacting to lab coats. Every time the dogs were served food, the person who served the food was wearing a lab coat. Therefore, the dogs reacted as if food was on its way whenever they saw a lab coat.

In a series of experiments, Pavlov then tried to figure out how these phenomena were linked. For example, he struck a bell when the dogs were fed. If the bell was sounded in close association with their meal, the dogs learned to associate the sound of the bell with food. After a while, at the mere sound of the bell, they responded by drooling.

Now, don’t believe for a second that mental triggers are limited solely to the animal kingdom. Don’t believe me – think you’re purely rational? Alright, let’s do a little experiment:

Think about biting into a juicy lemon!

See what just happened? I personally felt a sour sensation on my tongue and there’s no lemon in sight. The same phenomenon occurs all the time and in various situations. Even when it comes to investing or trading the markets – no matter how smart you think you are. We are all creatures of habit and if we encounter a certain situation for long enough we eventually will get used to it and incorporate it into our mental framework. Case in point? Even we bears have become almost complacent in our anticipation of even higher tape – we’ve been burned so many times that we simply don’t want to touch that hot oven top even one more time. Every time we did – we got burned! So, going short equals pain – right? Of course not – timing if everything. But this type of mental predisposition is exactly what Curtis Faith refers to as one of the cognitive biases – in this case we are talking about a mixture of ‘recency bias’ and ‘loss aversion’.

Some will even miss a stimulus (no pun intended) once it’s gone – which probably explains some of the addict like behavior many traders exhibit once a long term trend turns in its tracks and takes out most or even all of the gains accumulated on the way up. And that is exactly what’s about to happen again – maybe not next week but most likely within this first quarter of 2010:

Yes, Pavlov’s dogs are drooling again :-)

I have not bothered with the wave count for almost a month now – and the simple reason for that was that there was nothing to talk about (plus I was very busy). We needed a strong reversal to place some labels on our map and that came with Friday’s sharp drop to the downside. I’m sure that a bunch of folks betting on an expiry at 1150 still feel the sting today.

And although we might see a snap back on Monday or later this week the wave form in combination with various sentiment indicators dictates that this vapor rally is either over and done, or at least in its last throws. Yes, yes – that’s what I thought back in October and we got served a cold platter of kick ass. But the writing is now on the wall in the form of a looming withdrawal of the Fed IV drip that has kept this market on life support over the last year. Plus consider that avalanche of Alt-A mortgage resets ready to kick Wall Street in its collective groin all through 2010 and 2011. I’m sure you guys remember that mortgage reset chart behind my long term S&P outlook I posted a few months ago.

There is only one question you need to ask yourself today: Where is the real risk here, right now? Is it to the upside or is it to the downside?

Exactly.

Of course the slaughter scheduled for U.S. equities will not transpire in a matter of days or weeks. It will take months to play out – and thus we need to be clever and take into account how we can position ourselves with only minimum amount of risk and with a main focus on the medium and long term. Why? Because by the end of this year I expect the SPX to trade below the March 2009 low of 667. And by summer of 2011 we should be closer to 300, if not lower. An corrective third wave of the magnitude that lies ahead later this year has not been seen in over 80 years – it won’t be pretty and it will ruin the fortunes of many – unfortunately most of them innocent of the unmitigated greed and corruption that has afflicted Washington and Wall Street alike in the past decade. But that’s life – like in war economic crisis mostly affect the working class while the rulers and their cohorts sit things out in relative safety and luxury after having enriched themselves at the detriment of the majority. Is it fair? No, but unfortunately life is not fair – all you can do is to pay attention and push the odds in your favor a little. Which is what we do here – on a daily basis.

Short term we might see some flailing around on Monday or later in the week. Soylent Green is still a possibility and don’t fool yourself into believing that Soylent Orange is a ’shoe in’ – look how far we have come and how little we have dropped last Friday. Yes, it felt like a big victory – but it was nothing but a little drop into the bucket after a ten month long bullish rave party. There is a chance the bulls blow their load and push this thing into 1180. Doesn’t have to happen but if you’re short term oriented – be cautious and make sure you don’t trade the big picture with short term options that drain blood (i.e. theta) faster than bull with a matador’s sword in his heart. Which btw, will be my job all this year ;-)

The Investor Intelligence bull/bear ratio closed at 3.36 on January 12th – a new record for the past decade. Again, do you expect this ratio to push towards 3.5 or 3.8 before we turn? Possible – yes – but I keep pointing towards the long term here. I mean – wouldn’t now be a great time to think about hedging yourself to the downside? Option premiums are dirt cheap again and should we experience a correction to the downside the ensuing rip in volatility will be extremely profitable on the horizontal side of the option chain grid. Do I love long term options? No – actually I rarely trade them – but we are now finding ourselves in a very unique moment in time and each battle requires efficient weapons to come out the other end as victors.

I will talk about the Dollar tomorrow – running out of time here. But generally I don’t see anything in the way of the long term uptrend I have ben proposing for the old greenback for months now. It’s been a long time coming but thus far the developing wave form fits this general outlook.

As stated on this Euro/SPX correlation chart – equities can only ignore the dying Dollar carry trade for so long. The thing about a reversing currency carry trade is that it’s all about leverage – at the very tail end a lot of leverage is required to sqeeze profits out of the short end of your trade. When it turns you don’t want to be the last one rushing for the door out. Expect more strength in the Dollar in the months to come – and that will add to the headwind – or should I say shitstorm – that equity traders will encounter all year long.

Before I go a piece of bad news. On Friday afternoon Bloomberg sent me a cease and desist letter in regards to the charts gmak has been posting in the past few weeks. Now, before you bitch and moan about Bloomberg let me point out that this is a very reasonable request and that I was under the impression that gmak had received permission from Bloomberg to post his charts here. It’s quite possible that they are only looking out for their intellectual property and eventually agree that gmak’s posts only serve as advertising of their professional services. As a matter of fact he had been in touch with Bloomberg about this – but as I understand it only on a verbal basis and no written permission was given. So give me a few days to get in touch with their representatives and sort this thing out. Gmak is of course free to post any of his commentary or any of his personal charts. But until further notice you will have to do without gmak’s early morning caffeine boost – sorry – that’s life.

Let me make it also clear that our website, our activities, our products and/or our services have neither been authorized nor endorsed by Bloomberg or any entity otherwise affiliated with Bloomberg.

Cheers,

Mole

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  • kbmck
    It looks like the SPX wants to go to at least to 1167ish tomorrow ...and rising about a point more each day.. to be oversold enough for at lest a 5% correction day. If the SPX stalls out around this area I will pick up some FAZ calls or QID calls.

    I still think we are basic up into the first week of April at the least (EWI is notoriously early on their calls. We could bounce up and down into the summer to complete the bear correction. Any one (Mole) interested in plotting an EW senerio where we are up into April , sell of for a couple of weeks in April, Bounce to a marginal highin May, slight sell off in June and bounce to final high in August?
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  • boldventure
    Another Monday or should I say 1st trading day of the week melt-up. Think it was CD that pointed out, that the last 17 of 20 Mondays were up...Also I forget where I read that if you just were long every Friday close and sold Mondays close for the last 6 months you would have beat the S&P.

    I'm sure there is a statatition amongst us who could elaborate on the statistcal probability of flipping a coin 20 times and getting heads 17 times.
  • centerline
    I think it is actually 18 out of 20. I will have to check.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Closing at HOD. Sheesh.
  • Nightwind
    spx....licking its eyebrows....new high?
  • bananaben
    Bought BGZ @15.45
  • Schwerepunkt
    GL. Orbs of steel.
  • randomtrader
    isee between 230-270 the whole day... although this probably doesnt matter, volume is so low that markets have a tendency to just hover higher when there is no volume... therefore maybe this market needs a 1999-2000 buying frenzy so that VOLUME returns AND THEN WE CAN SELL OFF WITH VOLUME from levels like 2000 on the SP and 20,000 on the DOW. No volume, no selloff.
  • Me_XMan
    Bought some SDS.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Well, at least we do have slightly higher lows throughout the day on VIX. Not much to hang your shorts on though.
  • EWI and all losers of this word who sell subscriptions need to SHUT THE FUCK UP

    THEN market WILL go down
  • Emotions are getting the better of you - again.
  • I am really tempted to short IBM, going into earnings, it's only $2 away from it's 2009 top top EPS target price--and 2010 target price is only $140
  • Nightwind
    dow, new high
  • WTFed
    ending diagonal dead. Hochberg 0 Market 4
  • if Hochberg could feel ever " f u" he's gotten during the last year - he'd be she long ago
  • Schwerepunkt
    IBM. Reaction to this report should be interesting after the close. I would expect them to surpass effectively managed expectations. Guidance will be key. If it drops in the face of a positive report, could be a turning point for the NQ certainly, if not the markets in general. But I wouldn't front-run it long or short.
  • IBM, 14.2 is the highest p/e = $140, very doubtful, the market gives IBM $140 this early in 2010, so down it goes AH, no matter what they say.
  • Schwerepunkt
    I agree IBM is currently priced for perfection, and risk/reward would seem to be on the side of shorts, but guidance may improve the price the market is willing to pay for perfection.
  • bubble jeopardy
    keeping mole's ew overlap on credit suisse mortgage rate reset chart for the big picture indelibly printed in my head
  • Nightwind
    Hochberg/EWI: for those of you who missed shorting the last three tops, you may get another chance this week with a new top. LOL
  • that is NOT what he said!
    He said:
    "for those of you who missed getting fucked the last three tops based on my advice, you may get another chance this week with a new top."
  • WTFed
    when did he say this?
  • Nightwind
    I was just kidding...it is becoming a joke
  • WTFed
    well he wrote 5 pages on Friday all giddy about the indicators and the count and again, he is toyed with by the market. This is getting to be very sad for the poor fella.
  • Nightwind
    You would think with all their years of experience, research, and yes...making bad calls they would learn. I've been mostly scalping on the bear side, but I feel for those folks that went in 200% short and are getting killed.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Last hour of this shyte. Put your hats on.
  • boldventure
    Need a volume spike with some selling here in the next 45 minutes...to not give back all the loss from Fri... We shall see.... if the sellers show up.
  • SOHU, looks like the market is ignoring the new Regulations concerning SOHU, (62), if the market decides to give SOHU a 15 p/e, it'll go all the way to 61.8-equals short now, or 18.5 p/e, short at 76.2
  • bot AAPL Feb220p @12.20

    BIDU 440 puts from Friday
    http://evilspeculator.com/?p=14260#comment-29986882
    did phenomenal - [Elvis] Thank you very much
  • Hey was only passing on someone else's spot - didn't touch them myself in the end - liked the daily, but didn't like Friday's weird sideways-ness in the face of a falling market.

    Glad you did well outta them tho mate.
  • Me_XMan
    Wow this is some strong tough words here Mole.
    Very interesting though. It would be nation in chaos.
    ---------
    Because by the end of this year I expect the SPX to trade below the March 2009 low of 667. And by summer of 2011 we should be closer to 300, if not lower.
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  • Schwerepunkt
    PRS must have PMS now. Damn market popped. But it could still revert to VWAP ~1138.
  • PRSGuitars
    lol! Nailed it!

    No, I was chopping it up with ES near 1141 but after I rode the pop up hedged, I tried shorting what I had at 1144. Then realized this wasnt getting any better, closed everyhing to take the loss. Terrible exit but in retrospect there is no reprieve on trend days so I'd rather exit the theta commitment now and re-enter tomorrow if I am really so skittish as to do so...

    I'm also frankly trading quite poorly to start off the new year. Would rather exit for a controlled % loss than hang on for some silliness into spring 2010 that damages my potential to keep afloat for another year (trading for me is skill development for a prop desk job next year, ideally).

    And yeah, I was really not doing my usual thing which was a trigger to get the hell out. No reason to let a trend day ruin me (as they have before) because I was unwilling to see things for what they were (ie, "divergence" instead of "diagonal about to be breached on the next push higher").

    Best of luck to you. I may short again when this resolves itself but the 20day sma was scaring me a great deal and I suspect followthrough into the overnight session which I cannot watch tonight (no sleep, misery, last night...sigh). Hope things are better on your end Schwere!
  • Schwerepunkt
    I'm doing alright. Not really making money, but not losing it either. I've got to think when the turn happens, precious few will be positioned. I'm just going to keep scalping.
  • rammstein shorted es 1143
  • gsavli
    go rammstein!
  • Schwerepunkt
    I will wait to see if a new high is made before going short again.
  • shortcover
    VXX getting down there again...
  • Blind_Squirrel
  • amokta
    So what does Pavlov have to say today
    Anyway, rare successful trade - bought TNA friday, just sold
    Is it worth going short now?
  • standard_and_poor
    90% long waiting for more downside to increase to 95% long - with tight stops
  • Blind_Squirrel
    If you get and email with Osama in subject line do not open virus

    reported on a private blog?

    Mole, EWavers, could this be wave 3 of 5 up or is this the last wave of P2 up??
  • WTFed
    I have a potentially dumb question here, but on Friday 1/15, STU cited Thursday's high as "10,723.80" in the Dow and made that their stop for the ending diagonal they are banking on. Wasn't Thursday's high 10,767.15? I will never post again if I prove to be a major moron, so be easy on me.
  • randomwalker
    10723.77
  • WTFed
    Are you saying this is Thursday's high? Something is up with my charts. Wtf?
  • elliott_surfs
    $DJI - 10723.7
    THURS high, yes
  • WTFed
    Thanks all
  • elliott_surfs
    no problem =)
  • WTFed
    How does this quote differ from the "industrials" quote you would find typically on sites like Yahoo?
  • standard_and_poor
    Weekly and monthly trend still posivive.
    Wise old trader told me don't bother trying to predict the future monthly or weekly trend if you can't even predict where the market will close tomorrow (admittedly I can't even do that).

    I'll report back next week. Good luck brothers and sisters.
  • Schwerepunkt
    NAHB number coming out; expectation is for 17. Previous was 16. I expect a miss on this number; just guessing, but the weather has not been good.

    Edit: Came in at 15. A miss as I thought, but market reaction minimal.
  • bananaben
    Dollar continues to rally strong - I still think this suckers going down sometimes next week.
  • Guest
    I would be seriously careful on the short side - I have heard of bond-equity switch trades. First time I have heard of these since July last year - and that was not a period to be short.
  • Nightwind
    I feel like a bear trapped in a bulls never ending wet dream
  • centerline
    more like a bull porno
  • Nightwind
    Will somebody wake bobthehorse up!!
  • he's awake, it's the bears that are in a closed loop nigthmare... (me included)

    and until it breaks, it hasn't
  • Schwerepunkt
    Tomato risotto?
  • mole would kill me if it was in market hours... but then again...

    get some riso arborio (for those in countries without italian rice or where local rice is good enough, it's the non-needle variety, the rounder one, usualy cheaper)

    get some good virgin olive oil (not an option and don't be cheap)

    and small dried red peppers, fresh garlic, onion, tomato concentrate/paste + fresh tomato, salt, water

    you have to use a pot according to the quantity you want to make

    cover the bottom of the pot with an inch of olive oil and a finely cut onion, let it fry (I like adding salt from the start but it's up to you)

    as it gets yellow throw in 2 or 3 garlic teeth ... smashed and just open and throw in 2 red hot dried pepers

    weh everything is getting golden (but before garlic burns) throw the fresh tomatoe (cut it in small pieces before) and let it all fry

    then add a cup of tomato concentrate (that thingie that looks like non sugared nor spice ketchup for those who don't know), let it fry as well

    (you'll see the oil appart from the tommatoe demi-dry paste when thorougly fried)

    add two cups of rice and fry it in the mixture for 30 seconds to 1 minute

    add 3 cups of water

    let it cook for ...15 minutes (depends on the rice, check and serve when al dente)



    goes very well with pan fried fish, barbeques, etc


    p.s. from this recipe you can diversify, reduce the tomatoe paste, add some carrot when frying and then fresh mushrooms, boiled beans and some cabbage when boilling the rice and it gets quite good with some parmegiano at the end (with or without cream for this last variant if you want, but none on the tomatoe ok?)
  • Schwerepunkt
    thanks. I've copied the recipe, so you can delete it now . . . ;-)

    Whoops. forgot you can't edit when someone replies. I should have posted a separate comment. sorry
  • and check my correction to olive oil please
  • Schwerepunkt
    Yes, I already noted that to myself. I would have caught it. I usually prepare risotto in the classic Italian way, adding the liquid (homemade broth) half a cup at a time, with many options for flavor and ingredients. The classic way is marvelous, but takes a bit of time at the stove. I'll give your recipe a try though . . . Thanks.
  • btw, in portugal we like (both for rice and for stews) of doing a "estrujido"

    basicaly you use olive oil, thinly sliced onion and garlic and fry it until the onion is yellow and tender (for stews, and for some people for rice, you also fry very finely sliced carrot as well)... and often you fry the tomato as well

    from then on it's easy making something tasty, you can stew some meat with some wine and peas, you can go for chicken with olives (in this case go for dark beer or the stew)

    it's easy
  • this one has the extra time for frying the onion/tomatoe etc, but getting the right water right away is faster than adding a lot latter ...usualy water=(2Xrice)-1
  • centerline might want it as well ;-)

    if Mole thinks this is trash comment... he should see other blogs, at least this one is a nice recipe (BTW, test it for you with smaller quantities and see where we might have gone wrong or where you prefer to diverge on proportions, once you start in the risotos you'll se you have a lot of latitude)
  • centerline
    Already copied it! My first Hamster recipe. Adding section to my recipe collection accordingly.
  • as I mentioned, use the concept, feel free to change some proportions... BTW It gets better only with fresh tomatoe IF it is ripe and not too acid, otherwise go for concentrate

    for those who don't know... when a tomatoe recipe gets acid (slightly) you can try and correct it with a bit of sugar
  • gsavli
    2.54 cm of olive oil in hight ??? That could end up being half a litre. :))
  • oops, make it half an inch in your pot (depends on height /width) 25 cl should be enough for 2 cups of rice (breackfast cups)

    but it will be a "smooth" rice nevertheless

    p.s. as I usually do it eyeing the result I start with half a centimiter and usualy add as needed to insure that when I fry all the vegetables there is still enough to envelope the rice when i'm stirring it during frying
  • gsavli
    more like it, but still a lot of oil :)
  • it must be extra virgin olive oil, it will be excelent, caloric but very tasty, eat less of the rice but enjoy the creamy effect
  • Schwerepunkt
    I'd say 3 tablespoons.
  • centerline
    I think it was Bob who postulated a blow-off top here. Within the context of the current bull adult movie analogy, we probably should leave this one alone!
  • Guest
    wasn't a wet dream just after Citi numbers came out, more like a bed-wetting episode. But seriously - do not be short. Buy a call and go on holiday.
  • Schwerepunkt
    You mean selling bonds and piling into equities?
  • Guest
    Exactly. It's like a tidal wave of liquidity.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Ugh. At least I am flat, but I just can't take a long trade for more than a scalp.
  • Nightwind
    Unfortunately....I agree with you. Please just take naps from now on.
  • pulp fiction style? let's hope bruce willys comes along and then we can have our fun... medieval style (but in the mean time it's ball-gag for bears)
  • Schwerepunkt
    Anybody take this line of thinking seriously about the health-care vote?
  • WTFed
    If Thursday's highs get taken out that ending diagonal scenario is a goner. We are getting close.
  • randomwalker
    The bearish engulfing on spx fri took in seven previous candles and bollinger %b is downtrending
  • bananaben
    Markets going parabolic
  • randomwalker
    Like the analogy, but IMO a better one (for the bears) would be creepy psychologist John Watson and his aversion experiments on a child subject who if I recall was shown a certain picture synchronized with a loud gong behind him and soon showed signs of trauma at the mere sight of the picture
  • PRSGuitars
    In a related study, Watson punched little girls in the face and reported that they "appeared not to like it very much". Furthermore, lead is dense, the Sun is large, and the sky is blue.

    Watson and those early shrinks were real pioneers but also, pretty freakin' messed up.
  • nice guy... did he work for GS?
  • randomwalker
    He would have been an EVP, at least I would think..probably in charge of small client accounts
  • standard_and_poor
    90% long waiting for more downside to increase to 95% long - with tight stops.
  • Schwerepunkt
    GS to announce bonuses next week. There's a stock-play in that announcement. Any opinions? It's going to be a huge bonus, with restricted stock and such to make it more palatable for unbelievers.
  • raised_by_wolves
    Based on my trading plan, my short $SPX trade hasn't failed yet. It will fail if $SPX/GLD closes above the 104 MA today and opens above it tomorrow.

    http://screencast.com/t/MDRlNWI3

    You see that I'm playing the backtest, which I imagine has a lower probability of success compared to playing a breakdown. Based on this chart alone, I'd say my trade has coin flip odds at this point.
  • exactly cub, .96
  • ok, is this mania enough? 5's get overexcited... again (and then are recicled as 3 of 1)
  • goldpackers
    Incredible that we have not had 2 down days in a row since October. Don't believe I have seen this in my 20 + years watching this craziness
  • goldpackers
    Today's lows are crtical in JPM and GS. If today's lows are exceeded after today, then in 3rd down near term.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Es sitting between R1 1140-R2 1141.75. Which ever way it breaks should be good for 5 points.
  • Schwerepunkt
    market should turn right here.

    Edit Stop limit in at 1142. Market either drops here or jumps another few points. I"m in a no lose position now. If I get stopped, I will look to short again until the trade sticks. This is the only way to play this goddamned market.
  • forbiden verb SHOULD
  • Schwerepunkt
    Hehe. Point taken.
  • (but it should have broken from minute 1)
  • did we have a DISgUSt moment?
  • And what is one of those?
  • disqus playing around/not working properly
  • boldventure
    Key levels for further decline (near term). IMHO

    UUP needs to stay above 22.65 ( probably the most important)

    Spy needs to be at or below 114.31( end of day) .....that may be breeched before we get to the close, but that doesn't concern me now, because the smart money will be selling into this rally..... if we are going to have futher decline IMO.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Trend day down, followed by a trend day up, with a holiday sandwiched in between?
  • As is zero.

    Roll or melt - that is the question..........

    Top tick right here.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Just went short ES1142.25. Scalp targeting VWAP1135.
  • PRSGuitars
    Ambitious in this market but Im in the same trade. Trying to use a similar retrace to escape some puts that I was caught off guard with early on (literally mouth agape, staring at my screen as this P.O.S. reversed through all my pivots and vwaps... sigh).

    Looking for 1137 first but 1135 would be awesome. I would be one happy camper to get 1135 right now. Really infuriating to imagine all the dip buyers who swarmed in, UNDER VWAP as we fell away, who are now rewarded for their stupidity. This is like getting a pair of Kings called by Jack-Nine and watching the guy flop a straight. It's like, who the hell are you people and how does this pay you off?
  • TWD
    Are these dip buyers or just the caught off guard shorters covering after the bid was placed under the market. 1135 would be a gift right now.
  • PRSGuitars
    Volume representative of real interest. Can't believe the vwap + pivot combo went like nothing into the night... so sad. Nothing can keep us trending lower. As someone mentioned, no 2 down days since OCTOBER. Wow.
  • Schwerepunkt
    I just stepped out of my trade for 1-pt. It's taking too long and we're going sideways. In this market, that usually means it's building for another push higher. I'm with those who believe a trade either works almost immediately, or it doesn't. I can always reenter.
  • Schwerepunkt
    R1 at 1140 may present a bit of support. While I stated 1135, my real target is a reversion to VWAP. Could well be higher as VWAP is rising. 1137-38 probably more realistic, but we shall see.
  • Godspeed, sir

    :-)
  • Volume is dying on its ass
  • Schwerepunkt
    Bell rang and a lot of dogs started drooling, Dr. Pavlov.
  • Nightwind
    RUT...looks like we could possibly be in W1 of W5 of C on hrly chart.
  • PRSGuitars
    SPX 133 Retrospective hits... both sides... can SPX really be this simple?

    http://screencast.com/t/ZjQxODA5Yj
  • remember my 1.618 comment?
  • Seeing a lot of perfect fibs everywhere right now.

    Maybe best not to overthink it sometimes

    Poss flat on the SPYs here

    http://screencast.com/t/Mjk1NDNj
  • PRSGuitars
    Refresh my memory?

    Also, I just smashed my first computer mouse because I want to get violent with the market (and this will have to do). It was a 3$ mini-mouse I got with a keyboard purchase. But still, I'm at the point where I want to scream and tear my hair out for the last ten hours of my life. Pretty mad (but no way to start a week). Zen is the way to go.
  • Schwerepunkt
    Wow! Foreigners buying up US securities in a big way.
  • gregn
  • Guest
    Citi numbers bit of a yawn after all that. Nothing to get too excited about. Will be interesting to see how mkt takes it.
  • Schwerepunkt
    How's your positioning now? Did you lighten up on the long side overnight?
  • Guest
    No. Several reasons:

    1. The long gamma dynamic I have mentioned makes me fairly relaxed that dips will be bought, if only on a delta-adjustment basis.
    2. We have had a good month so have a quite a lot of P&L cushion.
    3. We are only 60% long so not exactly crazily exposed - however, not much interest in getting any longer at this stage.
    4. I have big balls.
  • Schwerepunkt
    All valid points, though I cannot and would not want to be able to vouch for the fourth bullet. LOL.
  • GMAK! Broken clock time!

    You did a fine work in a comment, just write things down, we don't need BB screens
  • AudioTactics
    Agreed...

    I only really read the commentary, didn't even look at the BB screens usually!
  • i browsed, but gmak should return even without Blondberg
  • Schwerepunkt
    I miss gmak's broken clock. When I went to bed, ES was around 1136. Seems Europe barfed overnight.
  • Graphite
    I work alongside some market makers in Nikkei options and for the past 3 weeks my boss has been absolutely despondent about how every trade is a bet on a slow, smooth rally with falling vols.

    At least as far as the option markets are concerned, the wall of worry has been obliterated.
  • Are you able to say what sort of traders have been putting these bets on ?.....big picture...I-banks, Hedge Funds, Retail customers ?
  • Graphite
    It's mostly banks, although when you get an order from a bank it's hard to say whether it's coming from their prop desk or something they're trying to get done for a customer. Most of the rest is hedge funds.
  • Guest
    there have been a lot of trades put on to sell ATM vol but people are adding the wings on the long side. It's been a pattern for the last month - suggests choppy but range-bound markets. Upside barriers around 1200 for Feb expiry have been a focus from the flow I have heard.
  • Graphite
    Actually what we are witnessing is mostly BUYING of ATM options financed by selling 1.5 or 2 times as many of the OTM options. It's all a bet on upside, and from a vol trading perspective it's a trade that is especially exposed to downside risk.
  • tradejane
    DAX began with a sell-off this morning, currently at 5876 or -0,72%. Bulls might not want to see a close below this area:

    http://www.screencast.com/t/OWZhYjcwMzE

    Techs were picking up some good bids earlier, which tends to frontrun a bounce, but were unable to retain them so far. Comedybank struggling at important support of 6.40.

    ZEW economic sentiment for January due 1000 GMT. Seen at 49.5 compared with 50.4 in the previous month.
  • tradejane
    The ZEW came in at 47,2 instead of the expected 49,5.

    DAX could not go above S1 at 5889 and is currently trading at the S2 area of 5861. Comedybank lost the 6.40 support some hours ago. Techs are very weak.

  • gregn
  • TWD
    Nice trade ideas greg especially CAT.
  • gregn
    Thanks for the comment and the add.
  • lilme
    Dear Mole, do not be sad. I decided to drop out (no big event) because of a tussle with someone. I realized that it was wasting my emotional capital and diverting my focus from trading while at the same time I was actually contributing nothing. No reflection on you or the blog.
  • Guest
    I wouldn't let it get to you. I suffered some bizarre attacks from someone on this board but just laughed it off. It's always a reflection on them, not you.
  • Now THIS is the mole I know and love! Oh, and remember, someone tell the last person to leave xtrenders to turn off the light; it seems the site's leaders aren't really updating things much anymore..........
  • Blind_Squirrel
    Major accomplishment for weekend:

    Finally up to latest thread and comment at 1:54 am ET at Facebook of Hope (forgive my sarcasm)
    typically 24 hors behind all weekend while doing other things.

    Tim: Do you try to read all the comments on your blog or do you skim here and there?

    The question I'm pondering is how do these people find time to trade!!!!!!!! I Say Nay Nay!!!!

    Again my apologies as I'm suffering from Post Traumatic Slope of Hope Post Reading Stress Syndrome PTSOHPRSS

    Meh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let me say again I'm all for some dead zone day time chit chat or some at night, but I read of one person boasting that
    they had increased their post count from 2000 to 4000 in a couple weeks (they must be under the belief that they can trade in their
    points like at the penny arcade!!! In comparison, I have made 2600 posts in 10 months and I thought that was a lot.

    Don't see Marketsniper yukking it up during the day, he's busy shoveling money.

    Sorry to dump on you, but do you have any solution to avoid the chaff and sort through the blizzard of messages?

    Respectfully,

    Blind Squirrel


    Perhaps a poll is in order to see if majority feels that chit chat during mkt. hours needs to be cut back???
  • PRSGuitars
    There was a post a few days back from someone, furious about the 'new' xtrends deal, claiming Sol was screwing everyone by charging $350/month for his trades (which apparently weren't detailed or updated frequently, or something of the like).

    I wish I'd saved the post -- it was full of bile -- but basically that explains why the 'old crowd' at Xtrends has moved on and some of the most fervent on that board are suspiciously absent (ie, paying $350 on the private xtrends board). Frankly Sol's trades during the Fall of 09, aka his revival, were glorious. I was very impressed. Since there are no trades and no analysis - not even JohneeBoy3! - I'll go do what you requested.

    ... waiting to be approved by a moderator. Ah, disqus and xtrends, we knew ye well.
  • yeah I heard from another xtrend subscriber that sol has been underwater on many positions. I too was very impressed with his performance and the ability to be very nimble. I mean some of his real time entries were amazing. He made a ton of money back but there is always a difference when you do your own trades, and when you do trades with a group of people that are paying for your advise following you.

    When its your own money, you tend to be more risky, if its someone elses money you tend to care more about perfecting your trades and exists and you get the fear of closing out too many positions in the red making others believe you are bad - so what do you do? you keep the position and go back to "its not closed yet so its not a loss" type of attitude. Closed losses vs open losses. The good old argment lol
  • rikardo_kurvio
    as usually, the answer lies in charts. they/he started the subscription after his performance chart went ridiculously vertical.
    joining it was/is like buying nasdaq in 2000
  • You're waiting to be approved for what?
  • PRSGuitars
    Disqus (for whatever reason, perhaps swear-word filters?) requires comments on xtrends to be approved by a moderator before being posted. This has been happening since August at least on xtrends (since I was there last in like, october, it was still acting funky).

    I made a post about turning out the lights. It's really a shame as I enjoyed xT greatly during its prime (and during the decline, naturally). Some great traders there once... don't know how the pay-site is going except that $350/month was never made public or else there would've been an uproar.
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